7mm BR Diesels

[Yorkshire Dave]

Hi Lee

If you ever want to turn the clock back with your 'roaring forties' (nautical term used out of place) here are two of my dad's photographs taken in the early 1960's.

Up train passing Brookmans Park (ECML)


'The Royal Scot' passing Leighton Buzzard (WCML) on the up fast line

 

[Healey Mills]

Hi Dave,

Wow, they are great photos. How I wish I was around when those were taken.

However, as much as I like 40's, I prefer them in banger blue.... although I have to admit 135 currently running on the ELR looks very nice in 'weathered' green with FYE.

Thanks for posting those photos.... real gems!!

Cheers
Lee

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

This one of mine is from Crewe open day, June 1984. Correction - the year was 1981.

 

[FiftyFourA]

Lee, just to put your mind at ease, we did not clean the Q6 today. I lent a hand (only the one as people who follow my thread on East Dock will know) to put the loco & tender together after she came by road from the NYMR.

Just to show you the underneath -

thats the 2 water bags, vac bag, steam heat bag and brake linkage (that was what is technically termed a 'bugger' ). What you can't see is the spring & nut on the drawbar. Its classed as BB size (bloody big) rather than the BAs we are used to.

I'm off to the pub now to do some reserach, honestly, they have nice old pictures on the walls just right for backscenes and buildings for post war layouts . I'll probably do a seperate thread in the Gallery for the pictures I take this next week or so.

Peter

 

[daifly]

This one of mine is from Crewe open day, June 1984. Correction - the year was 1981.

You can tell it's June from the summery way everyone is dressed!

 

[Healey Mills]

Not wishing to be upstaged by Mr Grumpy and his ongoing LED saga....

A busy day fitting the LED's and headcode dots to 40126. The dots are not meant to be symetrical just in case you wondered and are different at both ends:



Oh and get the main body assembled too:



Right on with 40060 again as the varnish is dry... finally!!

Cheers
Lee

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Not wishing to be upstaged by Mr Grumpy and his ongoing LED saga....

....don't rub it in!!
I'm busy rounding off LEDs as instructed.....

 

[Healey Mills]

Half-time result.... 40060 now with handrails (front and sides), half of it's decals and a test fit of the headcode box lens. I'm not sure about the dots yet, I think they may be a bit on the large side..... let me know what you think:



Cheers
Lee

 

[FiftyFourA]

Lee,

after the piccies of the Q6 I thought I would give you a few of your favourite - blue 40s ......






and lastly, is it steam or is it diesel?



and lastly, is it steam or is it diesel?

Hope you like them; by the way, how did you do the dominoes in the headcode boxes?

Peter

 

[Healey Mills]

Hi Peter,

The photos are great but I think the first one is the wrong way around!!

The dominos were done in MS word, with a little measurement of the plastic headcode front them guess work!

Cheers
Lee

 

[FiftyFourA]

Ah-ha, you spotted the deliberate mistake, just making sure everyone was still awake.

About the dominoes, did you use normal 80gm paper or was it photo type? I guess the white dot comes out at about 4mm diameter, what do you think?

Peter

 

[Healey Mills]

Ah-ha, you spotted the deliberate mistake, just making sure everyone was still awake.

About the dominoes, did you use normal 80gm paper or was it photo type? I guess the white dot comes out at about 4mm diameter, what do you think?

Peter

The diameter was 3.8mm, I have just reduced them to 3.4mm to see how that looks

 

[mickoo]

I think the first one (reversed) is 40 092 (80%) but might be 40 101 (20%) and the location looks like March.

 

[Steph Dale]

I think the first one (reversed) is 40 092 (80%) but might be 40 101 (20%) and the location looks like March.

I'm guessing you're detail picking? If so - how can you tell?

I reckon it's 092, if only because it's the next photo and the lighting looks similar (late afternoon?)...

Steph

 

[mickoo]

Steph, yes it's detail picking and something I like to do with class 40's , with over 2400 images off the web to choose from it doesn't take long, I didn't think to tie it in with the following image LOL.

It's one of only 14 engines with discs removed, there are two others (oo1 & 009 but these (D200 - D209) never had nose access ladders fitted, so the four bolt heads are missing.

It also has the extra headboard brackets outside of the door brackets, not all engines had that.

The warning flashes are mounted very high, most were fitted lower and more outboard.

The top marker light, note the two brackets that would hold the disc are missing, not a common feature, most of the disc-less engines kept these.

Finally the blue star markings, the top point of the star just lines up with the edge of marker light fitting above, blue star markings are as individual as the person who applied them, some are inboard, some out board. these match 092 perfectly.

If it is the same as the next picture and it is March then the shot is early morning, March sidings faced almost directly East. The road in the background is Hundred Road, here's a shot of the site now.



The engine would of been in the red ellipse if it were March. The warehouses are there but might of changed over the last 30 years or so, but I recall some of them there back in the 80's.

Here's one of my photos from the 80's note wagon is the same location, if the above image were mirrored and spacing of tracks.



MD

 

[Pugsley]

I think the first one (reversed) is 40 092 (80%)

Given that 40092 appears in the picture directly below, I think that's a good shout

That, and it appears to be the same lighting, as Steph points out, plus it appears to be parked in the same place relative to the sleepers.

 

[Healey Mills]

I think the first one (reversed) is 40 092 (80%) but might be 40 101 (20%) and the location looks like March.

Mick,

It isn't 101 as that was a loco that hauled the Royal train and hence had the small disc on the front right hand gangway door.

see here: Rail UK Photo Information

I can't remeber if 092 was vacuum braked with boiler. If so, more evidence
Cheers
Lee

 

[Healey Mills]

Today I got a little bogged down with testing the 40's in terms of what radius curve they can negotiate.

I have some peco set-track curves of radius 1020mm and when the locos travel over it without any weight the pony axles derail. With weight added thus:



the pony axles do not derail but it does seem like the bogies seem to bind a little and obviously this puts stress on the motors. One thing that does impede the bogies is the side frames. Without these fitted the loco will traverse the S curve with no problems at all, I guess as there is little hinderance from the sideframes.

I'm wondering what the minimum radius that one of these locos should be able to negotiate without any problems?

Cheers
Lee

 

[FiftyFourA]

Sorry guys, I should have put the number of the loco with the picture. It WAS 092 but for the life of me I can't remember where I took it (it was a long time ago and at my age .....). From 1973 to 1978 (when 'er indoors put her foot down) I was all over the place and over several house moves I lost the various records I kept so it is often a case a bit of detective work, but that can also be enjoyable.

Peter

 

[Healey Mills]

Hmmm, ok not much response to my last post... I guess not many people have built and run these JLTRT class 40s????? I'm now coming around to the thought that they are probably only good for 2000mm radius curves!!

Well, I've moved onto another quandry...... having printed out the headcode dots, it would seem that they are quite pixelated when illuminated. I have drawn them in MSWord which I suppose isn't the best software for said task. I was wondering if drawing the headcode background and dots on 'vector' drawing software would help... or is it all down to my printer?

On a lighter note..... I received some of Pugsleys decals on Saturday and they are just superb. I need to get them applied to the cabs.... when I have a minute as been a little busy with 126 too:



Certainly a different way to build the JLTRT class 40, not as per the instructions, but I have to say it lends itself to getting the loco sides flush which resulted in a lot less sanding and filling. Prior to this stage there was lots of test fitting though!!

Oh and of course there's the replicated side damage:



All things going to plan (whenever does that happen?) I'm hoping to have 40060 fully varnished and assembled by Wednesday so that I can make a start on spraying 40126.

Cheers
Lee