mickoo
Western Thunderer
I hope you've taken notes from Noah and made this one on a floating pontoon
Amazing how the little things in life can lift ones spirits
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I hope you've taken notes from Noah and made this one on a floating pontoon
Amazing how the little things in life can lift ones spirits
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Superb work Ade, what was reason for changing the chimneys on the prototypes ?
Col.
Col.
warren haywood
Western Thunderer
The paint job looks familiar, although I could be mistaken 
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
D'you know Col, I haven't the foggiest. Darlington being awkward?
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
The paint job looks familiar, although I could be mistaken
I couldn't see any ID of the painter Warren, though I did have a look around for some indication to see if it was one of yours. The black looked like celly, and was a nice canvas for weathering.
mickoo
Western Thunderer
Crab and Winkle
Active Member
My understanding of the 2MT chimney story was that when BR selected the class to be built for other regions than its native LMS an example (46413) was sent to Swindon for testing where it performed unfavorably against a Dean goods that it was supposed to replace. Experiments with draughting were undertaken and a taller narrower chimney was found to markedly increase the locos performance. Darlington had already commenced building them and the first batch at least 46465-46482 were fitted with the new chimney. It was later decided that it marred the engines aesthetics so a chimney that more closely resembled the original was made with the same internal dimensions as the narrow one (the one Laurie Griffen makes?)
I glad that you are up and running again Adrian and that 46468 should be completed at the same time. The real 46468 pulled the official post flood reopening train on the Brightlingsea branch in December 1953 after the line had been closed because of damage from the 1953 flood 10 months earlier. During this time BR had tried to close the branch but the actions of the townspeople saw it largely rebuilt so that it lasted up until the Beeching cuts.
Here is a link to a film from the Essex film archive showing the 1953 floods and 46468 pulling the reopening train from Brightlingsea (train at 6 minutes 20)
http://essexlife.e2bn.org/cif_af.htm
Cheers
Bill
adrian
Flying Squad
Likewise Adrian my congratulations - a beautifully finished loco and good news on the workshop front.
Bill -
how anyone can come up with the link like that is beyond me but I applaud your dedication to minutiae.
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
Thanks for the history of the tall & skinny Bill - now I understand why Laurie's tall 2MT chimney isn't the Darlington one.
Interesting that you mention 46468 hauled the first post-flood train on the Brightlingsea branch - another coincidence is that sister engine 46447 moved under her own power on Sunday for the first time since 1966.
Interesting that you mention 46468 hauled the first post-flood train on the Brightlingsea branch - another coincidence is that sister engine 46447 moved under her own power on Sunday for the first time since 1966.
Dan Randall
Western Thunderer
Nice work Adrian. Although the skinny chimney looks daft (almost Emmett like), I'm amazed it's a 3D print. Any chance of a photo of the other two "prints" please?
Regards
Dan
Although the skinny chimney looks daft (almost Emmett like), I'm amazed it's a 3D print. Any chance of a photo of the other two "prints" please?Regards
Dan
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
Thanks Dan, and yes, it is a funny little chimney. Sure; I've got some photos of them somewhere, along with some profile comparison shots. I'll dig them out and post them up.
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
Thanks Tony. I've been following your San Cheng Royal Scot rebuild with interest, and you're proving Richard's comments about decent replacement castings gilding the lily (perhaps a modelling cliché, but I've never actually used the phrase before!).
Still looking for the spare t&s chimneys Dan, but in the meantime here's a comparison profile shot I took. Funny how in the flash the printed one created a white silhouette, but it definitely was the real thing sitting on top!
Still looking for the spare t&s chimneys Dan, but in the meantime here's a comparison profile shot I took. Funny how in the flash the printed one created a white silhouette, but it definitely was the real thing sitting on top!
welshwizard
Western Thunderer
Looks as good as ever Ade
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
Something I recently dredged out from one of the containers on the drive - an ex-GW H7 flat wagon with a BC-1 container.
Originally built five or six years ago, this was going to be in a 1930s GW livery, but the commission ground to a halt when my client changed period to late Edwardian, so back it went unpainted into the box, until picked up by someone else for an early 1950s setting.
Again it's to 0F standards and built almost as designed with the exception of replacement GW-style screw couplings from Laurie Griffin and CPL's lovely shackle and chain set (there's a pretty good write-up of them over on Raymond Walley's site here). Despite the split spring design of the shackles where the two halves are mated with cyano when in position on the wagon, I found it hard to give the impression the chains were taut, so pushed down on the hook at the top so it was flat against the container, tightening everything up, introduced a little glue and bob's your uncle.
Cheeky? Yes. Non-prototypical? Yes. Compromise? Yes. Would you have known if I'd not told you? Exactly.
I love the juxtaposition of the dull oxide of the flat wagon and the glossy carriage crimson on the container with this livery, and despite being weathered, I wanted to maintain that combination of finishes. With my usual 'chuck loads of paint at it and take it all off again' routine, followed by a few hours of drybrushing highlights and shadows I think I've just about cracked it.
Originally built five or six years ago, this was going to be in a 1930s GW livery, but the commission ground to a halt when my client changed period to late Edwardian, so back it went unpainted into the box, until picked up by someone else for an early 1950s setting.
Again it's to 0F standards and built almost as designed with the exception of replacement GW-style screw couplings from Laurie Griffin and CPL's lovely shackle and chain set (there's a pretty good write-up of them over on Raymond Walley's site here). Despite the split spring design of the shackles where the two halves are mated with cyano when in position on the wagon, I found it hard to give the impression the chains were taut, so pushed down on the hook at the top so it was flat against the container, tightening everything up, introduced a little glue and bob's your uncle.
Cheeky? Yes. Non-prototypical? Yes. Compromise? Yes. Would you have known if I'd not told you? Exactly.
I love the juxtaposition of the dull oxide of the flat wagon and the glossy carriage crimson on the container with this livery, and despite being weathered, I wanted to maintain that combination of finishes. With my usual 'chuck loads of paint at it and take it all off again' routine, followed by a few hours of drybrushing highlights and shadows I think I've just about cracked it.
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Does that mean it has been picked up by someone else, or you are waiting for someone to pick it up?
Hopeful of Oldham
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
Dear Hopeful of Oldham,
I'm sorry - to clarify, it was picked up by someone else.
Yours, etc.
I'm sorry - to clarify, it was picked up by someone else.
Yours, etc.
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
OK, I've had a chance to dig out a half decent photo of the other side of the conflat and container. I keep meaning to replace my Manfrotto tripod which was caught in the deluge, but life just keeps getting in the way 
, so at the mo it's a bit point-and-shoot, cross yer fingers and hope for the best.
This one wasn't too bad, needing a little processing to sharpen it and drag out the true colours. I have to say I do like the busyness of the end door.
, so at the mo it's a bit point-and-shoot, cross yer fingers and hope for the best.This one wasn't too bad, needing a little processing to sharpen it and drag out the true colours. I have to say I do like the busyness of the end door.
Buckjumper
Flying Squad
There's quite an array of different things in my 'to complete' list and I'm working through them as I drag them out of storage.
Among them is a batch of three GCR D8 5-plank wagons, originally produced by S&T, but now with David Howes of Quainton Road Models. David has improved the underpinnings and added extra details by producing an etched sheet of various parts.
The D8 wagons were built between 1896 and 1900 with various differences; some had a sheet bar, and a few were piped for the vacuum brake. Over time the type of brakes employed were upgraded, and the kit caters for the three main types, viz:
The three kits will have brakes representing the three main types above, and the wagon with 2D brakes will also be piped.
The kits come in a large card box (photos from my phone, so apols for poor quality)
And inside are the nicely moulded and cast (by CMA) resin body, one large etched sheet with all the necessaries, a second smaller sheet which comprises of updated etched parts which confirms that David has a rolling program of improvements (it'd be nice other kit producers did the same!), and a third even smaller sheet with extra solebar number plates in case you decide on a fleet of the things.
Also included are whitemetal castings for the axleguard/axlebox/springs, sprung w/m buffers with steel heads, w/m coupling hooks, steel links, inside bearings for the compensated axle, 3D printed vac pipes, and various lengths of wire.
And eleven pages of instructions of text, drawings and photos!
So here's a photo montage of the build so far:
More next time.
Among them is a batch of three GCR D8 5-plank wagons, originally produced by S&T, but now with David Howes of Quainton Road Models. David has improved the underpinnings and added extra details by producing an etched sheet of various parts.
The D8 wagons were built between 1896 and 1900 with various differences; some had a sheet bar, and a few were piped for the vacuum brake. Over time the type of brakes employed were upgraded, and the kit caters for the three main types, viz:
- 1S: One side brakes, levers both sides at the same end.
- 1D: One side brakes, levers on opposite sides at right hand end.
- 2D: Brake both sides, levers on opposite sides at right hand end.
The three kits will have brakes representing the three main types above, and the wagon with 2D brakes will also be piped.
The kits come in a large card box (photos from my phone, so apols for poor quality)
And inside are the nicely moulded and cast (by CMA) resin body, one large etched sheet with all the necessaries, a second smaller sheet which comprises of updated etched parts which confirms that David has a rolling program of improvements (it'd be nice other kit producers did the same!), and a third even smaller sheet with extra solebar number plates in case you decide on a fleet of the things.
Also included are whitemetal castings for the axleguard/axlebox/springs, sprung w/m buffers with steel heads, w/m coupling hooks, steel links, inside bearings for the compensated axle, 3D printed vac pipes, and various lengths of wire.
And eleven pages of instructions of text, drawings and photos!
So here's a photo montage of the build so far:
More next time.