G3 Hellingly Hospital Loco

jamiepage

Western Thunderer
This is an infill project designed as a bit of occasional light relief from a couple of live steamers. It will probably be fitted with onboard batteries rather than catenary pick up; either way, it won't have to do much work other than shuffle itself plus a couple of short wb wagons about.

An original idea was to use a Peter Spoerer fosmotor etc., but a small Mashima plus gearbox is becoming more likely.

Bits are being collected, including a suitable crew.
Indeed, in some ways the main point of this first posting was to let any scenic G3 modellers know (were they not already aware), of a source of good quality figures.

1:22.5 scale Model Citizens

I ordered a few on spec. recently. ordered via the website, paid by paypal, and they arrived very promptly.

Among other options, figures are listed under 1/24 and 1/22.5. although examples of both measure up to c. 77- 78mm tall, hatless.

Thoroughly recommended.



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jamiepage

Western Thunderer
Osgood,
Thanks for the encouragement, but in all honesty I wish I could use CAD.
The Guv'nor very kindly gave me some tutorials, Adrian's more recent tutorials were also gratefully received, but little enough sticks unfortunately.
I have produced x2 pantograph patterns ready to mill out the main body panels, which will beat sawing out by hand, but would much prefer to have the skills necessary to CAD then send it for etching.
 

Simon

Flying Squad
What an excellent project.

Many years ago I built a rather dreadful 16mm model which bore some resemblance to this prototype. It was the prime mover on the very long lost "Stench Electric" railway line, a meandering tramway in a friend's garden that was wiped out by the erection of a large concrete garage in the early 1980s.

I blamed Mrs Thatcher at the time...

If you're really unlucky I might find a picture:p

Simon
 

Dan Randall

Western Thunderer
I have produced x2 pantograph patterns ready to mill out the main body panels, which will beat sawing out by hand, but would much prefer to have the skills necessary to CAD then send it for etching.

Jamie - I use TurboCAD for my etch artwork and only live a couple of miles from you in Devizes. I will gladly give you a crash course if you like? You may recall doing a machining job for me about three years ago, so I owe you a favour!


Regards

Dan

 

jamiepage

Western Thunderer
Dan,
How very kind of you. Please don't think you owe me a favour, but if you have some time I would be extremely grateful to you for some coaching. Please don't think it will be easy however.
Yours
Jamie
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
I use turbocad as well and am willing to do telephone support. They always have a stall at the Model Engineering exhibition in Alexandra Palace (next weekend actually) and you can pick the software very very cheap during January.
 

jamiepage

Western Thunderer
Further to the last, I would be grateful for a bit of help straightaway.
My desktop computer (a Mac) doesn't have anywhere to put bought in disc- type software. Presumably I have to purchase and download on line therefore (?). Assuming that to be the case, I see three options- the cheapest being TurboCAD Mac Designer 2D v9. The packaging suggests it would be perfect to design a Floridian bungalow but is it likely to be ok for our purposes please?
Thank you.
 

Dan Randall

Western Thunderer
Hi Jamie

I would assume (dangerous, I know!), that it's simply the Mac version of the TurboCAD V9 (2D), that I started out with about ten or eleven years ago.

If that is the case, then you can certainly produce etch artwork with it, as I have done on several occasions. These days, I use TurboCAD V14 Professional, which is a 3D package. You can do 2D stuff with a 3D package, but you can't do it the other way round, so that might be something to bear in mind when purchasing some software. You may have no immediate desire to produce 3D stuff for your railway projects, but it can have other uses such as interior or garden design, the 3D element providing a better visual example of what you're trying to achieve.

I also have TurboCAD Professional 18, which is again, a 3D package. It has more features than V14, such as being able to draw threads or helixes, but because the layout of the menus differs considerably from V14 menus that I'm used to, I tend to use V14 all the time. If I need to incorporate a thread or helix into a drawing, I should be able to draw the bulk of it in V14, then export it into V18 and finish it off there.

There is also a package called TurboCAD Deluxe, but I don't know if it has 3D capabilities and whether or not it's above or below "Professional" specification wise (though I suspect the latter). Hope that helps.

If/when you buy TurboCAD, PM me and we can sort out a meeting. :thumbs:


Regards

Dan
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer

There is also a package called TurboCAD Deluxe, but I don't know if it has 3D capabilities and whether or not it's above or below "Professional" specification wise (though I suspect the latter). Hope that helps.

If/when you buy TurboCAD, PM me and we can sort out a meeting. :thumbs:


Regards

Dan

I have TurboCAD14 Deluxe and it does have 3D capabilities - not that I have made much headway with it though although being honest I haven't tried that hard to date.
 

lankytank

Western Thunderer
Guys

I'm sure that I've seen a Pete Spoerer video of a radio controlled beast that looks like the double of this 'little' baby - just can't remember where. If I find it I'll post a link, if there's interest. Probably in G1 though..........?!?!?

Baz
 

jamiepage

Western Thunderer
Baz,
The Peter Spoerer link may well be due to the fact he put together a running chassis for this project, and it has appeared on youtube running with G1 wheelsets.
Unfortunately I managed to wreck the fosmotor whilst trying to re- gauge and have now wandered off in a different direction with small Mashima plus gearbox etc. I'm also thinking of the Protocab system for it.
Jamie
Herewith the primary reference source-
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jamiepage

Western Thunderer
The main body panels have been detailed, primarily with very many rivets. Or rather, the detailing is nearly finished; deliberating whether to fit the few remaining rivets before or after bringing the panels together.
More importantly though, and even though I took an age to select the size of rivet to use, with much experimenting and peering at various photographs, now it's too late I am increasingly sure I got it wrong.
En masse, the rivets look too large.
True, it is a very small prototype but they do look more prominent than they should. Something like 0.9mm head dia.would be better, rather than the 1.1- 1.2mm actually used.
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