Mr Grumpy

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
I have been quietly chipping away at fitting the door hinges which look very effective :) I'm finding them a tad frustrating due to my incompetence at some aspects of soldering, and a few of the brackets falling off when opening the hinge fixing holes. No Dave.....I'm not going to glue them!!!!

Anyway, prior to posting the photos, I thought I had completed the hinges on one side of the coach, but typically the camera never lies, and I have one hinge up side down :-(
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Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
One thing I have learned since I started kit building, is that on average, I will commit at least one school boy error with each model I attempt to build, generally more!

One of the important essentials is to have at least one decent photo of the prototype at hand. This can cut the frequency of such happenings possibly to zero:)

Anyway, back to my error....the BS doesn't have the electrical switch gear fitted externally...it's in the guard's compartment. So off it came, locating holes filled and flattened...and then the left hand step snapped off.
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Yorkshire Dave

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One thing I have learned since I started kit building, is that on average, I will commit at least one school boy error with each model I attempt to build, generally more!

It goes without saying - I always manage to have at least one error to correct after finishing a build. Otherwise I'd think there's something wrong if a build went together without an error :).

One of the important essentials is to have at least one decent photo of the prototype at hand. This can cut the frequency of such happenings possibly to zero:)

I've found a minimum of four photos are required; at least one of each side and each end of the vehicle. I have two sets of photos of which one set I annotate in Affinity Photo (or Photoshop) to highlight the details I have to pay attention to. I end up with several photos looking something like this.

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Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
I like that...I tend to forget what I'm supposed to add(or as above) subtract even though I had the photo on my phone :oops: I must stop being so tight and print them off :)
 

markjj

Western Thunderer
At least in 5" gauge you can get some decent castings to make your own wagons lol ;-).
Plus there is that book on the HMRS site by I think Doug Hewson about making 5" wagons.
 

markjj

Western Thunderer
You can make the chassis for the wagons from any material lol even Brass I guess.
So yes you could solder them. I think the norm in 5" gauge or bigger is to use real fixings as in real rivets and tiny bolts.
You can buy kits Richard I think it's around £250-300 for a small open wagon though....
 

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
I just need to re-fit the rear step, the luggage compartment door hooks and fit the interior glazing panels then the body should be ready for a coat of primer.
I used Westdale cast commode handles as I had used them on another build and really liked them. It takes a bit of fettling to get them to fit, so probably doesn't save any time over using the etched ones supplied.
The inside of the body has been sanded as smooth as my head, so shouldn't cause any grief when fitting the interior.
Ps. The roof isn't bolted down in these photos.
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Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
The glazing panels have been fitted, it took longer to decide on which windows to have open or closed :)

I gave the body a quick blow over with etching primer to check for any imperfections that may need to be rectified, but all seems ok. I cleaned off the handles immediately with cellulose thinners. They will need cleaning again once the top coat is on, but shouldn't be as stubborn without the primer to grip on to.
I also folded up the interior and added the compartment partitions.
The seats come ready folded, with just the ends requiring soldering and are a very tight fit. I'm going to solder in some of the bigger parts in the guard's area, paint the interior then glue in the parts that are fiddly and or need to stay bare metal finish.
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Yorkshire Dave

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The glazing panels have been fitted, it took longer to decide on which windows to have open or closed :)

I generally work on the principle if it's a smoking compartment the windows are open to a greater or lesser degree. Non-smoking compartments - windows closed.

.....and if you're modelling the 50s or 60s why not include a smoke unit in the smoking compartments :).


I cleaned off the handles immediately with cellulose thinners. They will need cleaning again once the top coat is on, but shouldn't be as stubborn without the primer to grip on to.

I wondered which route you would take with these and it looks successful too.
 

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
Thanks Dave,
The photos are a tad poor, and a fair bit of detail is foggy.....I just get too lazy to get the camera out :rolleyes:
 

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
I made the most of a novel sunny and reasonably warm day and sprayed the maroon and black ends. The roof is BR coach grey. I'm going to give the paint a few days to fully harden before trying the roof, there are a lot of locating tabs that could potentially scratch the paintwork.

I'm pleased with the finish, although there is a tiny corner on the end that needs touching in with black. The commode handles need a little more cleaning too. I may even attempt lining the coach......with transfers.
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