7mm Trethevy, NCR, SR 1930's.

Pencarrow

Pencarrow

Western Thunderer
Move the track, don't chop the building in half IMO. I've always regretted choping the backs and corners off when the sides are visible - very difficult to hide.

If you are mocking up the Bodmin goods shed you'll have a shock at how big it is. Perhaps a smaller NCR style one might dominate less?? See what you think.

I like what you're doing though.
 
Yorkshire Dave

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Hi Peter

I think the positioning of the signal box on the inside of the curve as a view block works best.

I've been studying your track plan and to disguise the entrance/exit further you could bring the bridge onto the 'main' board by 10 to 15 cm. I have annotated over your photo to explain what I mean.

The salmon orange is one version of a bridge-cum-short tunnel and the blue is another version of a bridge which has been skewed. The green is the signal box.

When viewing the layout from the far end (where the table leg is) at eye level all you will see are the bridge piers their inner walls at roads 4 and 5 rather than the sector plate.

I'm sure there are quite a few LSW stations which are in tight spots and the LSW/GW station at Easton on the Isle of Portland is one which springs to mind.

Anyway - enough of my rubbish :rolleyes: - It's Rule 1 which applies :thumbs:.

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Peter Cross

Peter Cross

Western Thunderer
Pencarrow said:
Move the track, don't chop the building in half IMO. I've always regretted choping the backs and corners off when the sides are visible - very difficult to hide.

If you are mocking up the Bodmin goods shed you'll have a shock at how big it is. Perhaps a smaller NCR style one might dominate less?? See what you think.

I like what you're doing though.
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I have been looking at the shed. It must have about a 5th metre footprint. I will still mock it up and see how it looks. I have already been looking at the NCR ones although not sure if you can get drawings, or its a case of trying to scale.
I don't really want to chop the station building but I am very limited with space at front. There's 900 between wall and my bench. I can over hang a little but it's the end with my vice.
 
Peter Cross

Peter Cross

Western Thunderer
Yorkshire Dave said:
Hi Peter

I think the positioning of the signal box on the inside of the curve as a view block works best.

I've been studying your track plan and to disguise the entrance/exit further you could bring the bridge onto the 'main' board by 10 to 15 cm. I have annotated over your photo to explain what I mean.

The salmon orange is one version of a bridge-cum-short tunnel and the blue is another version of a bridge which has been skewed. The green is the signal box.

When viewing the layout from the far end (where the table leg is) at eye level all you will see are the bridge piers their inner walls at roads 4 and 5 rather than the sector plate.

I'm sure there are quite a few LSW stations which are in tight spots and the LSW/GW station at Easton on the Isle of Portland is one which springs to mind.

Anyway - enough of my rubbish :rolleyes: - It's Rule 1 which applies :thumbs:.

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Dave
I like the idea with the bridge. I will have a play I don't want it to feel too short. It will only be photos from the station end as there is 2 walls and a desk in the way to do much viewing. Yes I like the signal box on the inside curve too. Thanks for the input. Gets the old grey cells working on other options.
 
Paul Cambridge

Paul Cambridge

Western Thunderer
On Kelly Bray, I brought the over bridge back about 60cm from the end of the scenic section to eliminate the classic bridge/tunnel scenic exit device at the end of the layout. Very much as Dave suggests. My scenic section is around 5 metres, so I had a bit more room to play with than you have Peter. I also skewed it as Peter suggests, though the other way; the rear abutment is further towards the terminus, than the front. It may be worth making a scale model of your proposals so that you look at it from all angles. You won’t have to lie on the floor either! 1/4 scale would work. I wish I had made a model, as there are some features on Kelly Bray I am not totally happy with. The bridge, though is one I am happy with. It works well as a view blocker.
 
Pencarrow

Pencarrow

Western Thunderer
Peter Cross said:
I have been looking at the shed. It must have about a 5th metre footprint. I will still mock it up and see how it looks. I have already been looking at the NCR ones although not sure if you can get drawings, or its a case of trying to scale.
I don't really want to chop the station building but I am very limited with space at front. There's 900 between wall and my bench. I can over hang a little but it's the end with my vice.
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If you want a NCR goods shed dwg I have one.
 
Paul Cambridge

Paul Cambridge

Western Thunderer
Peter Cross said:
I have been looking at the shed. It must have about a 5th metre footprint. I will still mock it up and see how it looks. I have already been looking at the NCR ones although not sure if you can get drawings, or its a case of trying to scale.
I don't really want to chop the station building but I am very limited with space at front. There's 900 between wall and my bench. I can over hang a little but it's the end with my vice.
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Corfe Castle goods shed is similar to the NCR ones. There was a drawing in an old Railway Modeller. Cannot tell you which one as all my magazines are packed away.

Edit - Chris beat me to it!
 
Peter Cross

Peter Cross

Western Thunderer
Paul Cambridge said:
On Kelly Bray, I brought the over bridge back about 60cm from the end of the scenic section to eliminate the classic bridge/tunnel scenic exit device at the end of the layout. Very much as Dave suggests. My scenic section is around 5 metres, so I had a bit more room to play with than you have Peter. I also skewed it as Peter suggests, though the other way; the rear abutment is further towards the terminus, than the front. It may be worth making a scale model of your proposals so that you look at it from all angles. You won’t have to lie on the floor either! 1/4 scale would work. I wish I had made a model, as there are some features on Kelly Bray I am not totally happy with. The bridge, though is one I am happy with. It works well as a view blocker.
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5 metres, my first version of Bodmin came out at 4.5, but that still too long for my 3.1 room.
Sounds like a good idea to make a model.
 
Peter Cross

Peter Cross

Western Thunderer
Paul Cambridge said:
Corfe Castle goods shed is similar to the NCR ones. There was a drawing in an old Railway Modeller. Cannot tell you which one as all my magazines are packed away.

Edit - Chris beat me to it!
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I know Corfe shed well. We had a workshop in the grounds of the old dairy on the other side of the track. It's a nice little museum.
 
Peter Cross

Peter Cross

Western Thunderer
Well that is interesting. I have been comparing goods sheds. I am cutting out Bodmins. So I thought I would overlay one from the NCR that Chris kindly sent me. Although the NCR one is smaller and does not have the rails running through it. From front to back allowing for its position to the rails it only takes up 17 mm less space than the Bodmin one. But length wise it saves 80mm.
My conclusion from this is that there is little actual space to be saved, but the NCR one may well look better due to it not covering the tracks.
Back to cutting out Bodmins then find more material to do a NCR one.
By the way chris all copies you sent are very indistinct as far as writing goes. Managed to suss the foot print. I am annoyed, I must of sold my copy of the NCR history before moving. I only really kept stock books.
 
Pencarrow

Pencarrow

Western Thunderer
Peter Cross said:
Well that is interesting. I have been comparing goods sheds. I am cutting out Bodmins. So I thought I would overlay one from the NCR that Chris kindly sent me. Although the NCR one is smaller and does not have the rails running through it. From front to back allowing for its position to the rails it only takes up 17 mm less space than the Bodmin one. But length wise it saves 80mm.
My conclusion from this is that there is little actual space to be saved, but the NCR one may well look better due to it not covering the tracks.
Back to cutting out Bodmins then find more material to do a NCR one.
By the way chris all copies you sent are very indistinct as far as writing goes. Managed to suss the foot print. I am annoyed, I must of sold my copy of the NCR history before moving. I only really kept stock books.
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Will dig out the digital originals for you Peter. I'm fairly sure the text can just about be made out on those.
 
Peter Cross

Peter Cross

Western Thunderer
I've been playing again. I have a mock up of bodmin shed. As Chris said it's quite an imposing building. It fits where I originally planned. But does not quite feel right. Not sure if the smaller NCR one would look right either. Will try once I have more card.

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Looking through the books, I realized Wadebridge shed is next to the station building. So I had a look on my layout plan. To me I think it works well with the large shed. Seems to lengthen the layout with the low down shots. It also means I can alter the trackwork at the front and the boards won't need to grow. Will also add to the shunting moves as anything for the shed will need to move off stage and back again.

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Will have a bit more of a play with templot. Once I can get my laptop to charge.
 
Pencarrow

Pencarrow

Western Thunderer
Looks better behind the platform Pete and the platform height will mask a little of the height of the goods shed. Speaking of platform heights... Your station building will obviously be taller once sat on the platform, so the mismatch in height between it and the goods shed will be less.
 
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