1934 Fowler diesel shunter debut

Discussion in 'Talk' started by Osgood, 25 June 2019.

  1. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    In case anyone locally is interested, this little critter (JF20337 of 1934) will be a debutante hauling passengers at the Mid Suffolk Light Railway's first 'Diesel Day' coming Sunday (30th June).
    Visit Us & What's on - Mid-Suffolk Light Railway Museum
    Her first train should be at mid day. Best bring a book for the short journey - she doesn't exactly race along :)


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  2. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Wonderful to see, Tony.

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  3. BrushType4

    BrushType4 Western Thunderer

    Count me in.
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  4. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    Quick update - just heard that the first train with Fowler is planned for after lunch.
    And yes - I too wonder what time lunch ends!
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  5. BrushType4

    BrushType4 Western Thunderer

    It’s alive!!

  6. BrushType4

    BrushType4 Western Thunderer

    Tony (@Osgood) it was good to see you today. The Fowler was pristine. Now to work out how to alter my Ixion version.
  7. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    Phil's photo shows initial station pilot activities, but she was later let loose on the top passenger link :)
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  8. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    Likewise Phil.

    If you need access to an outline G.A. there is one here you can inspect - alternatively head over one Friday evening and have a measure up and a beer in the Kitchener Arms coach (probably best done in that order......).

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  9. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

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  10. BrushType4

    BrushType4 Western Thunderer

    I surveyed the site for suitability for a Tesco Depot and I was amazed how much track was down and looking like it’s was useable.

    I think Tony mentioned his loco may be going back to SWC for a gala next year by the developer on the original rails.
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  11. BrushType4

    BrushType4 Western Thunderer

    Sounds like a plan. I’ll try and encourage the wife along too with the dogs.
  12. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    Yes Dave - this is the very (only) one. Hence the livery, faithful to the original works photo.
    Prior to 1934 they used a Model T truck with ballast body on rail wheels.
    Surprisingly, given the footbridge from platforms crossing over the sidings, only 6 photos (mostly poor) have surfaced of the loco at the factory.

    The factory opened just before the National Strike causing delivery problems, the company resolving thereafter to deliver 50% of its output by road.
    The rest went out in standard railway vans - the 4mm RTR Shredded Wheat liveried model vans (Colman's Mustard style) are believed to be fictional.
    All grain came in by rail for a long while until that too gradually switched to road and by 1977 the rail system had been abandoned.
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  13. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    Hopefully part of the Welwyn Garden City Centenary celebrations. The town was designed by Louis De Soissons - as was the factory in 1926.
    Six of the silos and the production hall are listed and the developer has chosen to retain the adjacent inset sidings and points in the form of a piazza as a marker of its industrial past.

    Home - The Wheat Quarter
  14. eastsidepilot

    eastsidepilot Western Thunderer

    Great restoration on the loco Tony, sorry I couldn't get there on Sunday, ( Granddaughter duty down and back from Essex ).

    ATB, Col.
  15. Brent

    Brent New Member

    Here is the High level kit recently completed other than fitting sand pipes.

    Mark Humphrys

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  16. eastsidepilot

    eastsidepilot Western Thunderer

    Tony, you need a Minerva model re -painted and lined out as your loco !
    Here's one I converted to S7 and weathered some years ago Fowler 0-4-0 Diesel Mechanical

  17. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Both the Minerva (and High Level one for that matter) are a larger version, albeit of a similar vintage.

  18. Overseer

    Overseer Western Thunderer

    Nice build. But as Adam has pointed out it is the larger 70-80hp version. Fowler marketed them from the mid 1920s in a range of sizes and a choice of engine.
    Fowler standards.jpg
    The Ixion O scale one is based on the GWR example of the mid sized ones, the LMS also had one but with the starting donkey engine on the opposite side.
    Fowler 70hp portrait1.jpg
    Fowler 70hp wagons1.jpg
    The Ixion model in S7-
    Ixion Fowler.jpg
    And a scratchbuilt Fowler similar to Osgood's Fowler -
    Built in the mid 1980s in styrene with Triang Polly wheels with alternate spoke cut out and an X04 motor. Coupling rods are 4mm bullhead rail and it has never had the driving shaft fitted. Despite the similar appearance the only part in common on the prototypes were probably the radiator and buffers (not right on my scratch built one).
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