7mm A Tiger of a Tank

farnetti

Western Thunderer
In the last few days started building BR 35.5 ton Class 'A' tank wagon from MMP and thought I would post a few pictures.

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These first two show what you get in the box. I have removed the resin ends which are supplied fitted in the rolled tank with sellotape.

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The initial chassis parts cut out, riveted and folded ready for fitting and soldering. Everything just clips into place perfectly.

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These have now been soldered together with the centre solebars and another few bits.

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More detail added

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On this kit the leaf springs are castings rather than built up but still with separate axleboxes. The instructions point out that it is possible to spring the wheels and suggest a method using phosphor bronze strip. However the axlebox castings are quite substantial, it looks like the prototype had roller bearings, and there was room to drill out the small locating holes at the top to take some small coil springs. I then filed down the lugs at the bottom of the spring casting to fit inside the coil springs. Hopefully the photo makes this clear.

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Here they are temporarily fitted. The idea is that when the wagon is weighted the coil springs will compressed down on to the axleboxes but the wheels free drop slightly if the track requires it.

The is tons of room to add weight in the tank before the resin ends are finally fitted. Or to be really authentic maybe I could fit the ends and then just fill it up with some diesel out of the can in the garage!

Ken
 

farnetti

Western Thunderer
Ken

It looks great another really enjoyable build.

So does this mean you have finished the 16t mineral wagon ?

Richard

Hi Richard

Oh yes it is and no I haven't.

I am waiting for some 2mm axle washers - there were plenty in the kit but I nicked them for something else. I wish I hadn't now as an order from another supplier is taking some time, hence starting this kit. Also finding the finer chain fittings to the end and upper side doors perhaps beyond my capabilities. We'll see, on the shelf at the moment.

When these two are finished I am hoping to start on the 08 shunter. Steve at SWD is reprogramming the decoder for for whistle sound at the moment. I haven't done any DCC before so the wiring should be fun.


You'd better fit some baffles then to prevent ballast surge!

Oh well, maybe not then.

Ken
 

dibateg

Western Thunderer
Ken - I did a couple of these a while back, they are great kits - and our soldering is neater than mine, are you using a resistance set up?

Regards
Tony
 

Railwaymaniac

Western Thunderer
Ken

Not sure if it helps at all, but the Building 0 Gauge Online site has pix of these exact kits for both the 'A' tank and the 'B' tank in the gallery section ...

Ian

P.S. - lovely looking build, BTW :bowdown: - and having been building that Slaters PALVAN of mine I'm starting to recognise what's going on under there :thumbs: . Ian
 

farnetti

Western Thunderer
Ken - I did a couple of these a while back, they are great kits - and our soldering is neater than mine, are you using a resistance set up?

Regards
Tony


Tony, yes I am. I've had it for around 20 years now. I am using it exclusively as my other irons are in storage during a protracted house move. It's not always ideal but as needs must.

Regards,

Ken
 

farnetti

Western Thunderer
Ken

Not sure if it helps at all, but the Building 0 Gauge Online site has pix of these exact kits for both the 'A' tank and the 'B' tank in the gallery section ...

Ian

P.S. - lovely looking build, BTW :bowdown: - and having been building that Slaters PALVAN of mine I'm starting to recognise what's going on under there :thumbs: . Ian


Hi Ian, spent quite a long time looking at that site, it is a great help alongside the drawings. In this case though it suggests cutting off some small tabs on each end of the main underframe fret, I can't work out why as the locate and support the outer brake hangers.

Working on the brake gear now and will post more photos in due course.
 

farnetti

Western Thunderer
Ken

Not sure if it helps at all, but the Building 0 Gauge Online site has pix of these exact kits for both the 'A' tank and the 'B' tank in the gallery section ...

Ian

P.S. - lovely looking build, BTW :bowdown: - and having been building that Slaters PALVAN of mine I'm starting to recognise what's going on under there :thumbs: . Ian

Ian, me again.

I have a Slaters box van to do and trying to source etched brake gear for it. I was about to order some Ambis etches, they seem to do everything except the brake shoe hangers. Any ideas or are you building the kit as is?

Ken
 

Railwaymaniac

Western Thunderer
Ian, me again.

I have a Slaters box van to do and trying to source etched brake gear for it. I was about to order some Ambis etches, they seem to do everything except the brake shoe hangers. Any ideas or are you building the kit as is?

Ken

Ken;

I'm building a Slaters PALVAN, this is a plastic kit with everything except the solebars, vac cyl and brake hangers/brake shoes as an etched kit. So the brake hanging gear, brake actuating gear and brake levers are on the brass etch
and 'yes', other than adding Slaters etched sprung suspension I'm building it as it came in the box - I ordered it with S7 wheels :thumbs:

Ian
 

Railwaymaniac

Western Thunderer
I just managed to grab this pik of the etch that they supply - given the stuff you have under the tank wagon, you should be able to recognise some of this stuff ...
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Enjoy!

Ian
 

djparkins

Western Thunderer
I just managed to grab this pik of the etch that they supply - given the stuff you have under the tank wagon, you should be able to recognise some of this stuff ...
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Enjoy!

Ian

I think you might find that our upcoming underframe detailing set for the Slaters BR 10' WB fitted stuff will be useful. Both four & 8 Shoe versions will be done.

DJP/MMP
 

farnetti

Western Thunderer
I think you might find that our upcoming underframe detailing set for the Slaters BR 10' WB fitted stuff will be useful. Both four & 8 Shoe versions will be done.

DJP/MMP

Good news David, hope it won't be long (well not longer than 10' anyway)

Ken
 

markjj

Western Thunderer
Hi Ian, spent quite a long time looking at that site, it is a great help alongside the drawings. In this case though it suggests cutting off some small tabs on each end of the main underframe fret, I can't work out why as the locate and support the outer brake hangers.

Working on the brake gear now and will post more photos in due course.

I think that comment regarding cutting off the small tabs may be a minor error. I'm building 32 of these little babies and I can see no reason or note in DJP's instructions to do this. If you look on all the photos up to 36 they are not there and then on 37 they are back... I could be wrong and stand corrected if I am... (Ducking back into my hiding hole tin helmet on)....

Mark J
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
I just managed to grab this pik of the etch that they supply - given the stuff you have under the tank wagon, you should be able to recognise some of this stuff ...
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Enjoy!

Ian


Very interesting to see the etch Slaters supply for 7mm. I'm currently working on a couple of 4mm versions of the same brakegear from Rumney models which uses a number of similar approaches, notably for the linkages. The brake yokes, however, are much less detailed on the 7mm version (third picture down): http://www.rumneymodels.co.uk/12.html

That is surprising... DJP will do it properly, I'm sure!

Adam
 

djparkins

Western Thunderer
I think that comment regarding cutting off the small tabs may be a minor error. I'm building 32 of these little babies and I can see no reason or note in DJP's instructions to do this. If you look on all the photos up to 36 they are not there and then on 37 they are back... I could be wrong and stand corrected if I am... (Ducking back into my hiding hole tin helmet on)....

Mark J


Hello Mark -

As I recall - it is some time back now and my nurse tells me my memory is not what it was these days - Simon V built this from a prototype etch. So the comments would not apply to your own or to Ken's kit/s.

Regards,

DJP
 

djparkins

Western Thunderer
Very interesting to see the etch Slaters supply for 7mm. I'm currently working on a couple of 4mm versions of the same brakegear from Rumney models which uses a number of similar approaches, notably for the linkages. The brake yokes, however, are much less detailed on the 7mm version (third picture down): http://www.rumneymodels.co.uk/12.html

That is surprising... DJP will do it properly, I'm sure!

Adam

We'll do them with wire inside tubing + 3 etched parts with a centering jig - similar to in our 8 Shoe Fitted Minerals.

DJP
 

markjj

Western Thunderer
Hello Mark -

As I recall - it is some time back now and my nurse tells me my memory is not what it was these days - Simon V built this from a prototype etch. So the comments would not apply to your own or to Ken's kit/s.

Regards,

DJP

Hello David,

It's too long back now I'm sure your memory is just as good as it always was though don't listen to the nurse I ignore comments like that from mine lol... My etches look the same as the one on here though so fingers crossed I said the right thing. I hope you are keeping well.
Best regards
Mark J
 

farnetti

Western Thunderer
I think that comment regarding cutting off the small tabs may be a minor error. I'm building 32 of these little babies and I can see no reason or note in DJP's instructions to do this. If you look on all the photos up to 36 they are not there and then on 37 they are back... I could be wrong and stand corrected if I am... (Ducking back into my hiding hole tin helmet on)....

Mark J


Hello Mark, I've looked at Simon Varnams photos again and you are right, so I'm glad I didn't remove them.

Ken
 
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