Aldeburgh Harbour, A Suffolk branch, Gauge 3 indoors.

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
Just wondering if meths based shellac knotting would be good for soaking the paper fitting to the mould and then leaving to dry, it would give some strength maybe to the tiles.
sounds a bit messy, the mould I use is made from Slaters Plastikard, perhaps it would be affected? I think I'll stick with water.
My plan is to just glue the tiles on a backing sheet with Evo Stik, and give the completed sheets a couple of coats of red oxide primer. Then do the detailed painting after they've been stuck on the balsa roof.
 

Eastsidepilot

Western Thunderer
sounds a bit messy, the mould I use is made from Slaters Plastikard, perhaps it would be affected? I think I'll stick with water.
My plan is to just glue the tiles on a backing sheet with Evo Stik, and give the completed sheets a couple of coats of red oxide primer. Then do the detailed painting after they've been stuck on the balsa roof.

Yes it would prove a bit messy, it was just a thought to maintain the rigidity, I remembered a S4 modeller from years back who made coach sides from paper, he used shellac to coat them which gave some strength.

Your idea of making these pan tiles has given me food for thought for Bow Creek Geoff :thumbs:

Col.
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
a photo showing the paper clamped in the two parts of the former. once dry I run a blade along the top and discard the straight piece on the right.
I have made guttering and corrugated iron using a similar method. The problem with the latter, though, is that each successive depression pulls the previous one up again. So, you need to clamp each one down before you progress to the next. The advantage is that it is a very cheap way to produce lots of corrugated iron sheets.

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geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
Test panel propped in situ. The pantiles are a bit higgledy piggledy, but the building would be over 100 years old. off to buy some Halfords red primer tomorrow.20180101_162210.jpg
I'm not sure what they did with the tiles where the upper and lower sections of the Mansard roof met. The current solution adopted at Woodbridge Tide Mill seems a bit modern to me.
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
Pantiles finished, glued on, and given a base layer of paint. And I've added the drain pipe, using Building Construction Vol 1 by W B McKay, for the dimensions. I'm beginning to think about weathering it.
After a dress rehearsal at the G3 Soc AGM on 10th March, the layout will have its debut at ALSRM Reading on the 12th May. However, as yet, I haven't sorted out transport (I don't drive, myself). So, if any WTer with a reasonable sized car (it's a compact layout) is going to ALSRM Reading, I might need to scrounge a lift from Leyton, London. You get free entry, your petrol paid, and all the tea or coffee you want.

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Mike W

Western Thunderer
Congratulations on your successful exhibition yesterday Geoff. The layout is superb and better than the pictures. Beautifully presented and with attractive and suitable stock, nothing "jarred" at all. Brilliant.
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
Some shots of the layout. prior to, and during it's dismantling for transport to ALSRM Reading, which is on this Saturday. Pnce Aldeburgh Harbour has been brought back and re-erected, work can start on the new layout: Roundle, a continuous circuit tramway/harbour branch diorama. Also gauge 3, and also set in GER territory. You can see some of the bits in the third photo.
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Workbench31

New Member
sounds a bit messy, the mould I use is made from Slaters Plastikard, perhaps it would be affected? I think I'll stick with water.
My plan is to just glue the tiles on a backing sheet with Evo Stik, and give the completed sheets a couple of coats of red oxide primer. Then do the detailed painting after they've been stuck on the balsa roof.


Some shots of the layout. prior to, and during it's dismantling for transport to ALSRM Reading, which is on this Saturday. Pnce Aldeburgh Harbour has been brought back and re-erected, work can start on the new layout: Roundle, a continuous circuit tramway/harbour branch diorama. Also gauge 3, and also set in GER territory. You can see some of the bits in the third photo.
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Lovely to see the finished layout. The period figures are nice . . . where are they from ???
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
Lovely to see the finished layout. The period figures are nice . . . where are they from ?
it's a long way from being finished, but getting there. The figures are by Preiser in G scale. They are very expensive, but very nice. And they stand on their own two feet without needing a base or a peg, which I think took some thought by the manufacturer.
 

Workbench31

New Member
I've just found them on line and see they do them in Gauge One as well . . . ideal. Thanks for the advice . . . . much appreciated.
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
With the experience of two exhibitions, I've decided to slim down the layout. There were too many extra bits that needed bolting on, and they had to be packed loose in the car. I also wanted a patch of 'water' as I hope to add a few appropriate boats in the future. So, all but a tiny section of the right hand quayside has gone, and the tranship shed (which is being saved for another project). The latter has been replaced with a different model of the same building, whose interior will be on show. A 20cm front to back stretch of water has been bolted on the front. All the bits which are bolted on the front will stash neatly into the recess of the fiddle yard baseboard. The reduction in the depth of the scene has meant I can reduce the height of the lighting beam.
These changes produce a more letterbox shaped layout which seems longer than it was before. especially when the later canopied platform is replaced with a lower earlier epoch version. It should all be presentable, ready for the Essex G scale show in October.

The photos also show progress building the Eastern Counties Gooch Class A loco. After puuting the tasks off for months, I've managed to solder the driving wheel splashers on, and fold the cab ready for soldering. You can see how tiny the RC receiver is. As the loco frames are rather slender, I've adopted what I think the car types call monocoque structure. The body and frames are all one unit into which the axles, RC and boiler/battery pack are bolted on.
And I've finally found drawings for Eastern Counties goods wagons! So, I will be able to operate the layout as Aldeburgh Harbour (c1850's) until the 3D printed Bury loco arrives courtesy of David Viewing. After that it's Peterborough environs.

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geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
It's a Strikalite 12 AA pack. you can just see it in the second photo. The JST plugs are brilliant, I can't remember which G3 modeller recommended them, but they make life much easier.
 

Spitfire2865

Western Thunderer
Ive got a bunch of those plugs too. RCS use them to connect all their bits, so Ive adopted it as well. A bit stiff at times, but a good strong join.
Youre fitting 12AAs into that? Any reason you want so much power? Idve thought 8 would be plenty. Unless your motor is 24V of course.
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
You may be right about the number of batteries. Everyone I talk to seems to try and pack in as many batteries as possible, I had thought that 12 would be only just sufficient. It is an off the shelf standard pack from Strikalite, that just fits nicely in the boiler and adds much needed weight. My initial tests were fine with a Revo RC, but this new one from is from Micron Radio Control and the loco is rather spritely, even with a minimum voltage. We shall see how it performs with a load. The motor is a Canon, supplied by ABC Gears with a helical gearbox, which is very nice.
 

Spitfire2865

Western Thunderer
I believe the Canon motor from ABC is 12V. Your 12 cell pack is nominally somewhere between 14.4-18V, with peak voltage probably somewhere around 20-24V. In my Neilson with 8 NiMH cells, I get a nominal 9.6V with a peak probably around 12V. I honestly couldve gone with 6 cells and still been fine. My American will also have 8 NiMHs in the tender due to space constraints, but thatll require a good bit of lead in the boiler.
Id see about fitting 8 cells and see how the loco behaves.
Last thing you want is to burn out your motor or ESC.
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
I have neither the tools nor the skill to accurately cut metal, so I ususally draw it in Turbocad and have it etched. etching is expensive, so I wait until I have enough parts to fill a sheet. That's partly why I have several projects on the go at the same time. Thus the frames for the Class A were part of the same sheet of .28Thou brass as that for the Simplex petrol shunter. And the latest sheet, the class A bodywork, was in nickel silver, as it included the J65 coupling rod overlays.
 
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