Rich, Thanks very much but shhhhh - I've been very busy of late and haven't had the chance to do any posting. Retirement, it's great isn't it...! The next 2mm Magazine is coming in October and I have written part two for that. I will endeavour to give WT subscribers a sneak preview beforehand time permitting. At the moment I'm engaged at a local crown court - the judge says we are the most important people there. Hmmm..! I'm glad you weren't bored stiff at the weekend because I've been known to ramble at times, although not nearly as much as young Clifford (Fosse Way is a good route Jerry...!)) and my little CC effort hasn't really marched on too much, except for the painted cabinet, and the stonework experiments are indeed just that. I will show my failures though, sorry, my unsuccessful attempts thus far, at some stage assuming I can get a result with which I am happy. We haven't failed until we stop trying to achieve - well that's my story and I'm sticking to it.... Mick S.