7mm Corwen Road

Andy P

Western Thunderer
My personal opinion for what it's worth, is that the Goods Shed was better at the Buffer end, and then the area where you have shown the Goods Shed above would make a lovely Meadow, making the Layout look longer and more Rural. Moving the point between the Coal Siding and the Goods Shed shown above about 12 inches to about the Country / Buffer end of the Coal Siding will also produce a longer Run around for both Goods and Passenger Services.
Please ignore if necessary, I won't take offence, haha.:)
 

GrahameH

Western Thunderer
Good morning Larry,

Being vexed by a goods shed is one thing that I too faced with my on-going small 7mm layout. I originally started to make a shell and when placed at the end of the mock up platform I found it seemed to dominate the area. If I were to alter the track layout and incorporate it towards the front it would be rather overwhelming in my eyes so I decided to have a local bay platform instead.
Please excuse the poor lighting but I hope it gives an impression,

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Grahame
 

76043

Western Thunderer
I thought the smaller goods sheds were generally not placed at the end of a siding for operational reasons.
Tony
 

LarryG

Western Thunderer
Thanks to everyone for their ideas. All were tried out this morning.

The goods shed is back where it started opposite the platform end, but when the time comes to construct a goods shed kit, it will be built narrower. All sidings now face in the same direction. I will come back to the layout later...
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Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
It's always worth juggling the track layout around, looking, going away and coming back to re-evaluate. It could well take several iterations to achieve your ideal plan.

Personally I feel the 'coal siding' on the left is too close to the goods shed road making the trackwork appear constricted. Perhaps it could be moved closer to the edge of the board (next to a fence?) and coal staithes placed on the inside. This would widen the gap and allow vans, wagons, flat cars with large loads to be unloaded directly on/into waiting vehicles without passing through the goods shed. It would also create an air of spaciousness.

However, at the end of the day rule #1 applies. :)

Enjoy the return to O scale.
 

LarryG

Western Thunderer
It's always worth juggling the track layout around, looking, going away and coming back to re-evaluate. It could well take several iterations to achieve your ideal plan.

Personally I feel the 'coal siding' on the left is too close to the goods shed road making the trackwork appear constricted. Perhaps it could be moved closer to the edge of the board (next to a fence?) and coal staithes placed on the inside. This would widen the gap and allow vans, wagons, flat cars with large loads to be unloaded directly on/into waiting vehicles without passing through the goods shed. It would also create an air of spaciousness.

However, at the end of the day rule #1 applies. :)

Enjoy the return to O scale.
Thanks. You mean like this... I had it this way because its look better. But two considerations clicked in.... Less room for coal lorries to move about between the tracks and my elbow is bound to knock wagons off the track. It still remains my preferred option though...

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Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
......and my elbow is bound to knock wagons off the track. It still remains my preferred option though...

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Hi Larry,

I, like many others have been following this reincarnation with great interest and I agree that this is by far my preferred option. If you are concerned about wayward elbows then why not have a protective strip of 6mm perspex along the front edge, depth of the baseboard + 100mm, you will be surprised how it is not noticed and therefore not a distraction.

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regards

Mike
 

LarryG

Western Thunderer
The evolving trackplan is getting closer to the one for Harlyn Road. It worked well, if I had kept it I was going to put a tunnel at the far end and make anther fiddle yard for variety.
Thanks for posting the video slip Cliff. I can see the similarities. also i spotted the double slip; something I had considered to make a yard headshunt. But at almost £100.00, I decided against such luxury. The mainline diesels sounded very authentic.

Ressalder; The translucent screen is food for thought. PhilH's uses one on his colliery layout. A low dry-stone wall from plywood is also a consideration so that nothing will get in the way of my camera.
 

Andy P

Western Thunderer
Yes, Yes Yes, Larry now looking much better my friend.

As Chris / Pencarrow said, a small wall along the front. I have just fitted some Jarvis OO Gauge walling along the front on Seven Mills for that very reason. It's only an inch and a bit high, so not intrusive, and enough to stop a wayward wagon from taking a dive.
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Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Yup, that has to be the answer. The siding on the platform side has been dropped, the run-round loop extended and a longer wider space created between the goods yard tracks. If it still suits me by weekend, it will be adopted...

That's what I had in mind and as suggested by others a strong wall/hedge to accommodate stray elbows!
 

PhilH

Western Thunderer
Tut, Tut. On the GWR/WR they were always called CATCH POINTS......:D

CATCH POINTS were normally used to derail vehicles that were out of control on a gradient (runaways).
They were usually spring operated and trailing to the intended direction of movement.

TRAP POINTS were used to prevent unauthorised vehicles entering or fouling an adjacent track.
They were usually operated in conjunction with the point giving access to the adjacent track and were facing the direction of movement.

So whatever the GWR or WR apparently called these, I believe the correct technical description of the item in question is a TRAP POINT.
 

cbrailways

Western Thunderer
Phil. My point was (pun intended) that if you are modelling GWR/WR practice they were always known as Catch Pointsregardless of their function, and official GWR/WR Permanent Way standard drawings show that. If you are modelling other railways, then I of course agree totally with you!
 

John Duffy

Western Thunderer
CATCH POINTS were normally used to derail vehicles that were out of control on a gradient (runaways).
They were usually spring operated and trailing to the intended direction of movement.

TRAP POINTS were used to prevent unauthorised vehicles entering or fouling an adjacent track.
They were usually operated in conjunction with the point giving access to the adjacent track and were facing the direction of movement.

So whatever the GWR or WR apparently called these, I believe the correct technical description of the item in question is a TRAP POINT.

It's a GWR thing, the rest of the world just ignores their idiocentric ways!! ;)
 
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