daifly
Western Thunderer
David
You clearly recognise this as an illegal act so best not to do it or advertise the fact! The regulations exist for everyone’s safety.
Dave (48 years in aviation)
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You clearly recognise this as an illegal act so best not to do it or advertise the fact! The regulations exist for everyone’s safety.
Dave (48 years in aviation)
simond
Western Thunderer
Whilst I agree with Daifly on just about every level, it seems to me that the likely outcome is not going to be worse that the contents of a can of gloss black paint soaked through a suitcase full of clothes...
On a marginally related topic, I was very deeply unhappy to have two jars of my mum’s very marvellous home made Seville orange marmalade confiscated at LHR T5 on my way home to India back in 2009. Should have put them in checked baggage
Atb
Simon
On a marginally related topic, I was very deeply unhappy to have two jars of my mum’s very marvellous home made Seville orange marmalade confiscated at LHR T5 on my way home to India back in 2009. Should have put them in checked baggage
Atb
Simon
The quick trip to the UK allowed this to be collected, so well done to the Finney 7 team.
Reading the Clostermann can showed that transporting it wasn't a sensible option. I did manage to buy some primer in the Taipei branch of B and Q and it seems not too bad (parts just resting together for the photo):
The primer always shows where attention is required.
It still seems strange to me that you can construct an incendiary device from unlimited cans of hairspray and take them on a plane but a single can of paint is a no-no. I suspect that the risk assessment has been impacted by considerations of what the travelling public will accept.
Anyway despite having the new hornblocks this project will take a back seat for a couple of weeks as I have to prepare something for Telford.
Reading the Clostermann can showed that transporting it wasn't a sensible option. I did manage to buy some primer in the Taipei branch of B and Q and it seems not too bad (parts just resting together for the photo):
The primer always shows where attention is required.
It still seems strange to me that you can construct an incendiary device from unlimited cans of hairspray and take them on a plane but a single can of paint is a no-no. I suspect that the risk assessment has been impacted by considerations of what the travelling public will accept.
Anyway despite having the new hornblocks this project will take a back seat for a couple of weeks as I have to prepare something for Telford.
Deano747
Western Thunderer
For information; unfortunately, David, (and as Dave pointed out) the dangerous goods regulations (DGR) in aviation are very strict, down to packaging, maximum quantities and what goods must be separated from others for carriage, etc, etc. It also covers what is and isn't allowed to be carried by passengers.
The whole book is about 50mm thick A4 size! It's a cargo pilots bible!!
Regards, Deano.
The whole book is about 50mm thick A4 size! It's a cargo pilots bible!!
Regards, Deano.
Having been diverted by the Coal Engine test build, I was diverted once again by a couple of Connoisseur Loriot wagon kits. As expected these went together easily. Now awaiting wheels, axleboxes and painting. (Part primed already).
Here is where I am with the Night Owl. Always nice when your 8 wheeler runs smoothly first time!
At this point I realise that the arm for the vacuum pump is upside down...........
Here is where I am with the Night Owl. Always nice when your 8 wheeler runs smoothly first time!
At this point I realise that the arm for the vacuum pump is upside down...........
Rectifying the misplaced arm was easier than I thought it would be: the joys of nickel-silver. With that more work on the cylinders.
The instructions tell you to laminate the slidebars by aligning them at the front, when clearly they need to be aligned from the end closest to the cab. Then I discovered that the valve chest ends were on back to front: the one identified as front cover also goes nearest the cab. a novel definition of front I think! The Finney 7 instructions are not yet available on the website, so I hope the guys have clarified it.
I am assuming that the prongs on the rear of the crossheads will need to come off.
The instructions tell you to laminate the slidebars by aligning them at the front, when clearly they need to be aligned from the end closest to the cab. Then I discovered that the valve chest ends were on back to front: the one identified as front cover also goes nearest the cab. a novel definition of front I think! The Finney 7 instructions are not yet available on the website, so I hope the guys have clarified it.
I am assuming that the prongs on the rear of the crossheads will need to come off.
SimonT
Western Thunderer
Dave,
thank you for the comments.
Martin specified aligning the slidebars from the front. I presume this is to ensure that they fit in the slots in the cylinder former. The back end get adjusted after they are soldered together.
The identitiy of the valve chests covers is exactly as Martin specified, I just introduced a simpler system. The valve chest should look like this.
This is a Hall cylinder but the 47XX should be very similar. I am still waiting to get my hands on a production etch as I used Brian's shelf queen for the etch photos and that etch is missing the firebox and boiler!
I've added a sentance to remove the prongs and will do so for the other outside cylindered locos. I might try to make the construction photos larger to make things a little clearer. Thank you
Simon
thank you for the comments.
Martin specified aligning the slidebars from the front. I presume this is to ensure that they fit in the slots in the cylinder former. The back end get adjusted after they are soldered together.
The identitiy of the valve chests covers is exactly as Martin specified, I just introduced a simpler system. The valve chest should look like this.
This is a Hall cylinder but the 47XX should be very similar. I am still waiting to get my hands on a production etch as I used Brian's shelf queen for the etch photos and that etch is missing the firebox and boiler!
I've added a sentance to remove the prongs and will do so for the other outside cylindered locos. I might try to make the construction photos larger to make things a little clearer. Thank you
Simon
. It must be slowing edging up the list by now.Perhaps I am being particularly thick (not impossible) but I cannot see how to align the slidebar laminations from the front as one is longer than the other and they finish at the same place (at the back).....
the drawing enclosed shows the valve chest end piece with the centre raised gland towards the rear to admit the valve rod. But this piece is described as the front cover.
I think I’ll go up the pub and watch the rugby....
the drawing enclosed shows the valve chest end piece with the centre raised gland towards the rear to admit the valve rod. But this piece is described as the front cover.
I think I’ll go up the pub and watch the rugby....
SimonT
Western Thunderer
Dave,
without a set of 47 etches I am at a disadvantage. These cylinder sets should all be very similar ....... I have looked at the 28 slidebars and the photo I have of one side of the 47 etch. The outer lamination is shorter and both laminations fit throught the hole in the rear cover, so no positioning constraint on the outer lamination. So the use of 'the front' is a red herring and will be changed.
The valve chest covers are more difficult as there should be a filleted diamond gland on the outer face of the rear cover (I've been looking at a lot of GW cylinders in developing the Guchi cylinder kit!). The front cover fitted to some of the Halls is exactly like the part labelled the front cover. I believe you are correct and for the 47 kit the part with the hole is the rear cover and the part without the hole is the front cover. I'll make the change. With over 40 sets of instructions done in just over two years there was bound to be a balls up somewhere.
Japan were magnificent!
Simon
without a set of 47 etches I am at a disadvantage. These cylinder sets should all be very similar ....... I have looked at the 28 slidebars and the photo I have of one side of the 47 etch. The outer lamination is shorter and both laminations fit throught the hole in the rear cover, so no positioning constraint on the outer lamination. So the use of 'the front' is a red herring and will be changed.
The valve chest covers are more difficult as there should be a filleted diamond gland on the outer face of the rear cover (I've been looking at a lot of GW cylinders in developing the Guchi cylinder kit!). The front cover fitted to some of the Halls is exactly like the part labelled the front cover. I believe you are correct and for the 47 kit the part with the hole is the rear cover and the part without the hole is the front cover. I'll make the change. With over 40 sets of instructions done in just over two years there was bound to be a balls up somewhere.
Japan were magnificent!
Simon
Simon, Hope you take my comments in the constructive spirit in which they are intended. Doing instructions is not easy!
I found with the cylinder assembly on this kit that if you align the slidebar laminates at the end nearest the cab, the single piece section (only) fits nicely through the cylinder end plate, cylinder rear and nestles nicely in the slot in the cylinder front with the double thickness section hard up against the cylinder cover. It all fits so well I am sure that is what was intended! I should probably check the length of the slidebars against the drawing.
While waiting to find out which number the loco will be (now known to be 4707) I made a start on the footplate. I found out the hard way that you really need to bend the steps first before the valance. Now that I know the number I will return to the chassis build. The number determines the location of the snifting valve.
Japan were magnificent: fast flowing ball movement and great teamwork. Players offloading the ball in the tackle didn't waste time looking for their man - they knew he would be where he needed to be. In the last quarter the Japanese defended well against sustained Scots pressure. A rivetting game made better by the four pints of Long Dong Lager and mixed fajitas that accompanied it.
SimonT
Western Thunderer
Dave,
we are very keen to get feedback to pick up any errors or even ways that information can be presented better; your feedback is now embodied in the outside cylinder kits, so thank you. The 47XX is basically a long 43XX and so the cylinders should be similar. Take a look at Brian Daniels gallery on the 53XX to see the relationship between the slidebar length and the position of the crosshead when nearly fully rear!
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The last Japanese try was fabulous - a great break with supporting runners coming on at speed from deep, perfect offloads and the Scotish defence in tatters. Their work ethic and discipline were brilliant. I hope a suitable referee will in charge when they meet the Boks; the difference in refereeing tackles has been very different between the North and South. I was on tea!
Simon
we are very keen to get feedback to pick up any errors or even ways that information can be presented better; your feedback is now embodied in the outside cylinder kits, so thank you. The 47XX is basically a long 43XX and so the cylinders should be similar. Take a look at Brian Daniels gallery on the 53XX to see the relationship between the slidebar length and the position of the crosshead when nearly fully rear!
IMG_6586
The last Japanese try was fabulous - a great break with supporting runners coming on at speed from deep, perfect offloads and the Scotish defence in tatters. Their work ethic and discipline were brilliant. I hope a suitable referee will in charge when they meet the Boks; the difference in refereeing tackles has been very different between the North and South. I was on tea!
Simon
Purple-haze
Western Thunderer
Genghis, sorry,but the thought of a long dong lager brings tears to my eyes
. Maybe just me?
regard Rog
. Maybe just me?regard Rog
Now that I know it will be 4707 I have been able to finish off the cylinders. The earlier locos have different wrappers to accommodate the snifting valves. So I now need to cut off the prongs on the crosshead rear and clean up.
The crosshead big end is very wide: I hope that the screw I have in the driving wheel is long enough. I may regret having secured it with loctite....
The crosshead big end is very wide: I hope that the screw I have in the driving wheel is long enough. I may regret having secured it with loctite....
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One of the big changes in Taiwan since I first came here 27 years ago is the now widespread availability of good beer. Actually not just beer: at that time it was not easy to buy milk or coffee. Now the supermarkets are full of different types of milk, Starbucks are everywhere and the convenience stores sell good coffee.Genghis, sorry,but the thought of a long dong lager brings tears to my eyes
regard Rog
There are now several craft breweries and beer imports are no longer limited to Heineken and Carslburg. I had a great pint of a Cornish Ales draft IPA last week finished off with a couple of Old Peculiers. There is an excellent locally brewed IPA - TaIPA (Tai - P - A) that is the nearest I have found to a good British bitter. I chose the Long Dong as its alcohol content was only 5% - less than the other beers on offer. You do have to have courage to order the first one, but the local serving wenches are unlikely to understand the implications.......
Focalplane
Western Thunderer
Another round?
My Asian experience in the 1970s included a lot of bottles of Indonesian Heineken, called Bintang for the star on the bottle. The preservative in those days was necessary as the beer was stored in room temperature but it induced terrible hangovers. Singha beer was similar but Tiger was at least palatable. No imported beers back then! How Asia has changed though my last visit was over 10 years ago to Jakarta when I had no idea where in the city I was staying; I asked where Blok M was and no one knew what I was talking about!
My Asian experience in the 1970s included a lot of bottles of Indonesian Heineken, called Bintang for the star on the bottle. The preservative in those days was necessary as the beer was stored in room temperature but it induced terrible hangovers. Singha beer was similar but Tiger was at least palatable. No imported beers back then! How Asia has changed though my last visit was over 10 years ago to Jakarta when I had no idea where in the city I was staying; I asked where Blok M was and no one knew what I was talking about!