7mm Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Discussion in 'Layout Progress' started by Dikitriki, 16 December 2010.

  1. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Hi

    Most of you will know I'm building an exhibition layout based on the Oldham Loop, a 31' by 14' urban environment dominated by the buildings.

    I shall post some update pics and videos as I can, but this post is prompted by the arrival of the first signal. It's the bay starter, still lower quadrant L&Y even then. We spent yesterday fitting it to the platform, and it can now be finished off. Built by one of the Heyside gang, Clive Neale, it's a lovely thing, and sets the bar for the rest of the S&T department to work to.

    I really believe we're starting to get somewhere now.

    Cheers

    Richard
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  2. Simon

    Simon Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    That is an exquisite looking model :thumbs:

    Signals add so much to a layout (and make great models in their own right) I'm amazed so many of us never get around to them :scratch:

    (I am definitely including myself in this category)

    Look forward to further updates very much, thank you for posting the picture!
     
  3. Phill Dyson

    Phill Dyson Western Thunderer

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Very nice Richard  8), how will you operate them ?
     
  4. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Thanks Simon

    Clive is an ex BR driver, and is most insistent that all signals look good and work properly, and that we operate to the signals. He also happens to be a gifted modeller.

    It helps that there are a reasonable number in the Heyside group, 7 of us, and this enables all areas to move on, and hopefully to maintain standards too. We've had great fun researching the L&Y in BR days around Oldham, and have a couple of other pure L&Y signals in the pipeline for the layout.

    Next update will be when the sun comes out.....

    Richard
     
  5. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Hi Phil.

    They will be servo operated - the recent MRJ article was very timely in this respect.

    Richard
     
  6. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Hi

    Having shown you the signal, it's the turn of the ladder. A candidate for a 'have I taken leave of my senses?' moment.

    I don't like etched ladders as they look like, well, etched ladders - one dimensional and with rectangular section rungs. The solution is to build your own. Here, I am using a Southwark Bridge Models jig and etched stiles. All the stiles had to be drilled 0.35mm, and the rungs are 0.3mm wire. It is stronger than the etched version, and looks tons better. Whether you want to put a few hours into building a ladder is up to you.......

    I should have enough for 2 signals here, and each ladder kit gives you enough for 4 ladders this length.

    Richard
     

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  7. 28ten

    28ten Guv'nor

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    I think it was worth the time, etched ladders look awful in comparison, even lost wax look poor as they lack the finesse of one fabricated from wire.  :thumbs:
     
  8. lancer1027

    lancer1027 Western Thunderer

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    I like those ladders Richard, i think i will make my own when i need to ( this may be a while yet ). They certainly look like a ladder should look :thumbs:

    Rob :wave:
     
  9. Dan Randall

    Dan Randall Western Thunderer

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Nice work Richard - they certainly look the part.  :thumbs:

    Out of interest, did you have any issues with the stiles buckling during soldering?


    Regards

    Dan
     
  10. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Hi Dan

    No, I didn't. I used a hot iron and went in quickly with 145. Frankly it took so long to poke the pesky .3mm wire through the  .35mm holes that the whole thing never had the chance to get too hot. The jig is clever in that it has room for expansion built into it too.

    If anything I had the opposite problem in that when I cleaned up the outside of the stiles, I found that I hadn't lingered long enough on a few joins and they were dry, ie the rungs pushed in or out. It was a simple matter to swipe over the 2 or 3 with a tinned iron and that did the trick.

    By the way, I chemically blackened the jig to stop any solder bleed attaching the ladder to it. That worked well too.

    Regards

    Richard
     
  11. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Hi

    Here's a video from the Xmas running session yesterday. Clive brought along another delightful signal, I've started on the dolls for the gantry, and Geoff Taylor is going to come along to help with the buildings/platforms/walls etc.
    So, lots more to post over the next few months.



    Richard
     
  12. 28ten

    28ten Guv'nor

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Its looking good  :thumbs: but as you say there is still so much more to add as it still looks quite bare. Are you going to extend out at the front and increase the width around the station building? I think it would make a real visual difference.
     
  13. Phill Dyson

    Phill Dyson Western Thunderer

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Very impressive stuff Richard  :bowdown: I love the layout  ;D , the rake of bullied's look great too. I noticed a 6 wheel Stove R (I think they are called that  :scratch: ) in the parcel rake, could I ask what chassis arrangement you have used as it looks to run extremely well  ;D

    Phill  :wave:
     
  14. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Looking good Richard...

    I think we need videos of some nice shunting.. Will there be much scope for shunting when the layout is finished and on the circuit as it were..?

    JB.
     
  15. 3 LINK

    3 LINK Western Thunderer

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Very nice as usual Richard, :bowdown: :bowdown: :drool:

    A question if I may, what is the overall dimensions of the layout ? And I second that request by JB regarding a shunting clip if possible.

    ATB,  Martyn.  :thumbs:
     
  16. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    I'm not sure at the moment. For sure it's a long way down the priority list. The door to the room opens to the left of the station, and only just clears it, so there's no room at home, but a lightweight extension for exhibitions would be possible. The plan is to finish everything else off, and then go back to have a critical look at the buildings. There is some station fencing to be added which will finish that area off a little more.

    Richard
     
  17. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Hi Phil

    The Stove R is a Westdale model. It is very stable and a good runner. It runs on the outer wheelsets which are rigid. The centre axle has the axle beyond the wheels cut off, and it runs in tube with plenty of sideplay. The tube is attached to the chassis with 2 pieces of n/s wire to act as springs. I detailed the construction of this and another Westdale coach in BRM Feb 1995 if you have a copy. I don't know where my copy is as the constant shifting of boxes in the railway room has totally disrupted any semblance of organisation.

    Cheers

    Richard
     
  18. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Hi JB

    There is good scope for shunting. I have added a run round loop to the original plan and extended the sidings both ends. As you look at the left hand end, there are the warehouses, which will see covered vans and parcels stock, while at the right hand end, there is a minerals yard (with the famous three throw turnout!) and a factory loading bay. We anticipate that the yard shunter, who has to operate from the front of the layout will be the busiest operator. Sine you can't reach the sidings from either the front or the back, the vehicles will have to be Dinghammed, and we don't yet have sufficient stock so equipped to operate properly. I also need my L&Y tank finished.

    So, considerable scope, but no video yet. I'll add it to the to do list. As we get nearer to exhibition deadline, we shall use the real stock and operate properly. The videos to date are just a hotch pot taster!

    Richard
     
  19. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    Thanks Martyn

    Heyside is now 31' by 14' (down from 38' by 17') and I think is better for it. You still can't see the whole layout from any one vantage point, as the viewable section continues round the curves both ends. I discovered that my camera fits nicely inside a mineral wagon, and can operate with the viewer flat against the body (so not out of gauge), so I shall be  able to give you a driver's eye view of the layout shortly!

    Cheers

    Richard
     
  20. Ressaldar

    Ressaldar Western Thunderer

    Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

    very nice Richard, especially the SR stock ;) and was that Mr Woodger making a guest appearance towards the end?

    regards

    Mike