Hi to all

greenglade

Member
That's a lovely model you have made there Peter, I for one can appreciate the amount of work put into that, perhaps a couple of pictures of my tender would be of interest.

A view from the rear, the tender is nearly finished, a few more small bits to add and of course painting and lining.

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and a view from the front, as with the loco when finished everything seen is working except for the scoop which for safety reasons is a dummy. The handbrake is fully functional, as are the two water valves to the injectors (one is sitting high as it's not currently located into the water valve below). The water gauge with it's row of holes to show the level of the water in the tender also functions as per prototype. The brakes are as per prototype too with two vacuum cylinders giving auto-vacuum control so that if the loco comes loose from the tender all brakes are fully applied. This will apply to the loco, the tender and any working carriages behind as long as they are vacuum controlled as the vacuum hose connections are fully operational for both tender and loco. All doors and lockets work and when I have finished researching the tools required the lockers will be equipped with all the 'LNER' tools of the day, they will also have white interiors and wooden pallets on the floor, again as per prototype.

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I have used some modellers license when choosing which tender to use, FS never had this 'high sided' tender, for my chosen era (1939) she had a streamlined tender, I have however, used the correct number (5640). The two tenders are close in appearance, however I needed to give some thought to being able to steam the model when having a fully scaled tender front, thus having no 'removable' front section. Also the streamlined tenders had the added section to the top of the coal wall which brought it up to the cab roof, If I had that I wouldn't be able to reach the controls in the cab, which has a scaled removable rear section for steaming. One other change, I fitted the later water vents which fit under the fairing instead of the 'hooked' type that sat proud of the coal wall, again this is to help with steaming the model. The other big reason is cosmetic appearance, with this high sided type tender I have matching loco and tender curved side sheets and beading, a very pretty combination.

I think that covers most things, feel free to ask any questions, I have been studying this class for over 20 years now and still pick up new bits of info here and there, I like to think, that I know this class and in particular 4472 very well now...:)

cheers

Pete
 

greenglade

Member
Pete is a very modest but excellent Model Engineer and would'nt thrust his build on you, but i would. I've read all 133 pages from 16 November 2010 to date Put the kettle on you will need lots of cups of tea :)

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Oh and Pete if you need to know Anything about lining pens PAD (Peter ) is your man.

That's very kind of you John

I have already read some of Peter's thread re-pens, very interesting. As you know John, I am currently doing a little lining myself, hopefully I'll update my build with fully lined wheels next week, well fully lined in as far as 4472 was concerned, she didn't have lined rims during her LNER career after 1924, perhaps for a short while before nationalisation, I'm not totally sure as it's not an era I researched.

Cheers

Pete
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
Hi Pete,
Exquisite!

As the scale gets bigger the more you can put on and be functioning, but you still need the skill to do it.

A couple of questions. Why have you fitted the stowage brackets for the A4 cod's mouth opening handle?

The top left hand corner is not in the photo, but is there be another fire iron bracket tucked away out of sight?

I see you have included the bucket and tap lower right side. I believe it should be on the corridoor tender (not sure about the the later streamline non corridoor), but the Finney kit does not provide for it so I left it off. Do you have any idea what if purpose was?
Cheers,
Peter
 

greenglade

Member
Hi Peter

The brackets for the 'Cods mouth' handle was an error on my part, I have left them for now. Yes there is a second 'fire iron' bracket not visible in the photo. You can just see it in this picture if looking through the cab spectacle window.

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the model is a little dusty here, covered in fine ash from the loco's steaming near by.
Regarding the bucket and tap, I can only assume that it's there to give cold water for the crew to use, perhaps to wet their clothes to wipe their face, that's the only reason that I can think off. The 'watering down hose on the backhead would be too hot for this. The bucket was on the works drawings that were given to me, it wasn't a corridor drawing, I can't answer whether the stream-lined tenders had it or not. IIRC, Mallard has it, I think that's a stream-lined tender? I stand to be corrected if I have this wrong...

Oh and please ignore the quality of the black paint, this was done in a hurry to get the model to a Memorial of an LNER man that I was asked to attend (with model) 3 years ago and have since taken the model each year in memory of the late Bob Todd as he drove these grand machines during the LNER's (later BR) hey day. Last summer was very hot and it was high 30's in the workshop when I sprayed the black, luckily it was cooler when I painted the wheels which are fine. The black will be redone later, fames and the lining was also done when it was cooler so all is good there..:) BTW all of the hatches open and will have the oiling points for the motion when I get to it.

Pete
 

Roger Pound

Western Thunderer
Welcome Pete from another Newbie. My only connection with 4472, or 60103 as she was when I first saw her as a lad, was when she was allocated to 38C (Leicester Central) in the early fifties. I used to visit the shed regularly on Sundays when it was very quiet and 'cab' the residents of which she was frequently one! You superb build in progress reminded me of those adventurous and happy days. Thank you for re-kindling the memory :)!

Roger.
 

greenglade

Member
Hi Roger...thank you sir and the same welcome in return. I looked at your pictures, very nice work...one day, I too hope to build an 'O' gauge layout....one day...:)

Kind regards

Pete
 
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