Jinty's Non Western WB

[LarryG]

V hangers and cylinders were on the batterybox side. This left the other side of the floor clear except for the regulator box in its holder.

In our book, I only dealt with coaches that worked out of Oldham. However, I believe the LMS D1851 corridor brake third was a circa 1953 conversion and one worked the Keighley-Oxenhope branch.

 

[Jinty]

In between the trails of the M52 (now with corridor on the correct side!!!), I've been playing around with this Heljan 25/1.

Finished in BR green with full yellow end, it is TOPS numbered using Railtec custom numbering, including the blue data panel. I added the blue side covers and the wonky 0O00's from Precision Labels.
The loco has been fitted with a Zimo MX645P22 sound decoder with an ADAPLU adaptor board. The decoder is loaded with a Paul Chetter Active Drive sound project with Dynamic Braking and Speed Lock, all through two bass reflex speakers.

Here is a short video:

And a few pictures:






More very soon

David

 

[bri.s]

Looks and sounds great David


Brian

 

[Ressaldar]

Hi David,

as Brian says, looks and sounds great, but are you not pushing (and pulling) it using a MX645 or has one of the motors been disconnected?

regards

Mike

 

[Jinty]

Hi David,

as Brian says, looks and sounds great, but are you not pushing (and pulling) it using a MX645 or has one of the motors been disconnected?

regards

Mike

Hi Mike,

Thanks.
As for the 'pushing it' using an MX645P22, no I'm not.
The current draw from the two motors, whilst I've measured them under differing conditions, has always remained under 2amps.
Whilst an MX645 usually peaks at around 1.8amps that would be pushing it. The trick here is the use of the ADAPLU in conjunction with the MX645P22 decoder, as the adaptor board increases the total amperage capability to 2.5amps.
This increase is more than enough to cope with these Heljan twin motored diesels, where the slightly smaller motors are fitted.

It will not work for the older and larger motored diesels such as the 37, 47, etc.

I also have a Heljan Hymek with one motor removed which uses a MX645R decoder, and still pulls very well with no overloading, and the Hymek is about the heaviest loco they made!!!

Regards
David

 

[Ressaldar]

Hi David,

I had assumed that the ADAPLU was at the root of things. Will try one sometime, although diesels have taken a backseat at present, thankfully Minerva have announced the Class 14, so I might be eyeing up an old 35 to go with it at some stage.

Regards

Mike

 

[Jinty]

Here we have the corrected body on the M52.
I'll get a few hours tomorrow in the workshop so will have a bit more time to maybe get the under frame underway.



Less traumatic than I thought, the coach kit goes together very well, a testament to the age of it.

David

 

[Jinty]

And another oil burner..............

A weathering job, this Heljan Class 128 DPU, number M55995, gently weathered so show an in service vehicle that has a build up of road dirt as it doesn't see the carriage wash quite as much as the coaches do..............................

David

 

[Jinty]

Here is a little Minerva Peckett 0-4-0t locomotive that I was asked to try and get running better.

It was jerking quite a bit, checked the obvious wheels and pick-ups first and gave them a clean with some IPA (India Pale Ale is really good for some things ).
I then fitted a 17,000uF Capacitor in the already cramped cavity inside the model, then gave her a little test.
At the end of the test I lift the model to see how much stay alive there actually is, about 4-5 seconds I think.

More soon
David

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I then fitted a 17,000uF Capacitor in the already cramped cavity inside the model, then gave her a little test.

It may be a dumb question but what shape and size (dimensions rather than uF) capacitor was used?

 

[Jinty]

It may be a dumb question but what shape and size (dimensions rather than uF) capacitor was used?

No question is dumb, unless of course you ask whilst already knowing the answer!!!

It was from YouChoos.
I left about 2" of wire from the decoder and added 'Black Tack' to the back of it and fixed it inside one side of the tank so that the motor, circuit board and decoder fitted still.
A picture is below, but if you go to their page for 'Stay Alives' and scroll down, you will come across it (£22 if I remember correctly).


Picture from YouChoos website, ©YouChoos

Regards David

 

[Focalplane]

Those stay alives really do work on all sizes of loco! I ran an older loco without one the other day and realized how I come to expect miracles with good running. It reminded me I have not yet wired up some electro frogs!

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Thanks David.

I'll have look at these capacitors.

 

[LarryG]

Stay alive from Digitrains costing around £20.00....

 

[Jinty]

The Ex LNWR M52 Driving Trailer has moved on a bit.

There are a few adjustments required to the kit to make it prototypical.
As well as the corridor being on the correct side, the other alteration is that the vac cylinders are both on the compartment side of the coach and not alternate like the half etched floor section of the kit suggests.
I'll be notifying the manufacturer in due course.
I've opted for cast brass vac cylinders from Sidelines, not that the whitemetal ones are poor in any way, I just prefer brass as a medium.

Wheels are on their way, so I can then get her up on her bogies and set up with a little compensation for running.
The dynamo needs a bit of adjustment too!!!
Here are a couple of pictures from my Phone camera, so please excuse the quality.







I have an interesting idea for lighting between the loco and the Driving Trailer, but more of that at a later date.
I have also decided to have a Sidelines D1807 in between the M52 and the Loco in Crimson and Cream livery. It should add some nice contrast and an interesting looking self contained train.

David

Edited to add that now I can see one of the corridor handrails has come adrift at one end!!!

 

[Genghis]

I have amended the instructions to clarify which end is which on the plan view and will add a note re the vac cylinder location pending possible amendment to the floor etch. I've also updated the packing list to get the correct number of vac pipes! Two of these kits will be available in a couple of months.
David

 

[Jinty]

I have amended the instructions to clarify which end is which on the plan view and will add a note re the vac cylinder location pending possible amendment to the floor etch. I've also updated the packing list to get the correct number of vac pipes! Two of these kits will be available in a couple of months.
David

Thank you David
That's good to know as I've had an enquiry for one after seeing this. But I'll let you know once it's confirmed.
The kit is an excellent fit in going together and the etches are nice and crisp. I'll have no issues with building another!!!

David

 

[Jinty]

A little video of the Ex LNWR M52 Driving trailer on its maiden voyage backwards and forwards across the tunnel turnout and all was well.

The Jinty is a Dapol model, fitted with a Laurie Griffin Chimney and safety valves with the correct base, then some Jim McGowan cast brass push-pull gear, extra vacuum piping and Narrow Planet Smokebox number and shed plates. Also fitted with a Zimo MX644D sound decoder through two bass reflex speakers (One in each tank) and a lamp on the front buffer beam with a bi-coloured LED to show correctly in both forward and propelling modes. The M52 will have a similar lamp fitted so that it will be prototypical in showing white in forward and red in reverse on both the coach and the loco.
A D1807 Period II Open Third will be built as an additional vehicle between the loco and driving trailer, as there was on the Greenfield branch. The M52 will be in Crimson Lake and the D1807 will be in Crimson and Cream.

Here is the video:

David

 

[Prairie Tank]

David your work is beyond excellent and your photo's are amazing, although I am sure they are of real ones and not models

John

 

[Jinty]

Real life getting in the way of modelling somewhat!!!

Here is the Gladiator Ex LNWR M52 Driving Trailer with a coat of paint on.
LMS Crimson Lake and awaiting the weathering stick.



I haven't painted the bogies yet as I've been trying to fathom what to do about DCC lighting of the coach.

The lamp is a YouChoos bi-color unit which is white/red and this will work in conjunction with the Jinty loco. The driving cabin and the saloon all have lighting fitted, one glowing warm white over each compartment.

My dilemma was, do I run the wiring to the Jintiy's decoder via a plug, or do I give the coach it's own pick-ups and it's own decoder?



I have now decided to give the coach its own pick-ups and decoder and will run the Jinty and the coach with the same DCC running number so that they work in harmony with each other.

This decision was pretty much made for me by the Dapol Jinty not having adequate space for a 5-pin plug/socket under the rear buffer beam.



Anyway a couple of pictures, unfortunatley the light had faded so it all looks a bit darker than it is in the real world.






Now on to fit pick-ups on the bogies

David