LBSCR two plank ballast wagon

Discussion in 'G3' started by Jon Nazareth, 14 March 2019.

  1. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Arty
    It can't be the same picture as they have different numbers which, in itself, is interesting as they are so close.

    Jon
     
  2. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Arty
    The book that you refer to is it, Southern Wagons pictorial by Mike King?

    Jon
     
  3. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

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    That’s the one Jon
     
  4. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Arty
    Sorry to labour this one. The pictures of the wagons you have uploaded here are numbered 7798 and 7796. Are they both in this book?

    Jon
     
  5. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

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    That’s the other one
     
  6. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Arty
    How do you manage to re produce such clear images? I assume that you are using a camera.

    Jon
     
  7. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    Phone
     
  8. Spitfire2865

    Spitfire2865 Western Thunderer

    It is quite amazing what modern phones can do!
     
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  9. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Here, here!
     
  10. Marc Dobson

    Marc Dobson Western Thunderer

    This wagon is the next project in 7mm so this thread has been very useful.

    Marc
     
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  11. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    For my David Mills wagon builds, I'm following the picture of No. 7796.

    Because the solebars are made up of 2 and 4 layers glued together, I decided to skim the tops and ends to have them all level. With the best will in the world, it is still difficult to glue them up and get them flush hence my skimming of these in the milling machine.

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    This picture shows the floors and ends glued together with the witness of the draw hook plate filled in. I shall be fixing some oval plates in their stead.
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    Some of the stanchions with their thick paper straps glued in place. I used fish glue for these as it goes off quite quickly meaning that one can move on with the next part without too much delay.
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    Here I've filled in some holes and made new ones as per the photograph.
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    The solebars have been treated in a similar fashion with unwanted holes and the number plates filled in. I have some new plates on order.

    Jon


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  12. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

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    Not much going on in the way of modelling as, at this time of the year, the garden takes precedence but, I did carry out a little work on these ballast wagons.

    To make more sense of how the sides are held in place, I am moving the strap hinges inwards slightly. By doing this the tab from the end, which represents the end of the lower board, shows slightly recessed and I am having to fill this area to give the impression that the lower board runs right through. The wagon on the right has already been filled and sanded back.

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    This picture shows progress so far with the sides glued in place, the end stanchions in position and the replacement draw hook plates added.

    Jon
     
  13. john lewsey

    john lewsey Western Thunderer

    Love these old wagons wonderful
     
  14. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

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    At long last, a trial of the bodies on their wheels. The next job is to sort out the brakes and then the wagon side retaining pins and chains. I meant to take more pictures but got caught up in the fact that the computer decided to upgrade itself. This left me without the capability of uploading pictures but I managed to restore the system to an earlier date. The proof is in the above picture.

    Jon
     
  15. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

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    These are the Alan Gibson 4mm handrail knobs that I'm using for the side catches. The short ones, Ref. 4m53, will be fitted to the sides and the Soulderless, Ref. 4m56, are going to be the pins. The joy with the shoulderless ones is that it has the eye that will take the chain.
    I opened out the eyes in the short knobs to .6mm with the broach which is across the dish.

    Jon
     
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  16. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

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    Undercoated and awaiting the top gloss coat. It doesn't look too bad in this picture but, I'm not that happy with the finish, hey ho.

    Jon
     
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  17. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

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    Transfers onto one wagon. The first one to go on was the 'illiterate mark' and, not thinking, I sloshed some micro sol onto it. I then started with the numbers and didn't notice the side starting to bulge. The liquid had gone between the planks and being mdf, they started to swell. It looked a lot worse to begin with but as the side has dried, as can be seen in the picture, it doesn't look so bad now but, I don't think that it will go completely. Transfer application has been a case of where they fall, they stay. There was some wriggle room with the individual numbers as these are smaller than the plank that they sit on but not so with the word BALLAST. Another word came to mind beginning with B when I first saw the blistering, I think that it was 'bother' :). The wagon plates are on order from Diane Carney.

    Jon
     
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  18. lankytank

    lankytank Western Thunderer

    Jon,

    I may have missed it but..... your representation of the nuts & bolts - are they the real thing or are they pretend?

    Barry
     
  19. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Barry
    The large are 14BA and the small, 16BA. Some nuts are used with a length of thread to mimic bolts, some with a rivet to make them look like coach bolts and some are used as actual bolts as in the axle box guides. I used 16BA cheese head for the hinges as the intention is to have a load of ballast and this will hide the heads.

    Jon
     
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  20. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    Looks okay to me as does the lettered wagon. These wagons would have take a lot of abuse isservice and would have been pretty dusty as well.