From Llangunllo to Llanbister Rd.

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Apologies to anyone who might have been trying to view this post but I had to delete it twice, and start all over again due to the photos not uploading.

It's only a sun shower...!!:)

Still wet though Keith :)

That's how I remember Wales. Wet. Wet. Windy. Wet.

Its not just Wales Richard, the whole country is the same :)

Anyway despite the weather the S&T department has been busy installing signal wire posts and wheels, which now stretch between the two signals.
Only four more to install and then I can tick another job off the list, well I can once they've been weathered and given a dab of dirty white paint.

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How did I make them, well I mentioned a few posts back, pun not intended, that I had a cunning plan, and it revolved around using an etch that I found whilst looking for something completely different.

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The etch in question is this one from MSE, ref: SC004/1 signal brackets, those wheels are approx 2.5 mm in diameter, which is still on the large side, but at least you can see them. When folded up as intended they resemble what could be taken as a wheel and wire guide. Well that's the way I look at it, when soldered onto a piece of scrap etch for a post I don't think they look too bad. I could have ordered the correct components from Ambis, or Masokits, but would anyone have noticed the difference once on the layout?

Another job that I've been working on is a test of the latest Laserglaze from Shawplan for the Lima GWR Railcar. Paul M-P kindly sent me a pack of the glazing to try, its to the same high standard as other glazing packs in the range. Being very accurately cut, each piece only needing a little cleaning up with fine wet'n' dry along their edges to produce a snug fit

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I've used a fresh model for the trial, which I picked up for a bargain price from one of my friends. At the moment its all very much a case of work in progress. New front end detail, ie) pipework, buffers and couplings will be fitted along with the missing lamp irons above the horn grills. I've already replaced the moulded hand rails below the front windows, and those each side of, and on the doors will get the same treatment. The roof vents will also be replaced, the original Lima mouldings bearing no resemblance whatsoever to a GWR vent. Though its a fiddly job to glaze the smaller windows, I think the glazing really transforms the model, especially the front end which now captures the look of the real thing. Once some wiper arms have been fitted it should look even better, I'm also thinking of trying some of the brilliants that come with the Modelu loco lamps for the front lamps.

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The quarter light frame in the cab side window is a strip of self adhesive paper that I had lying around. Still plenty of windows to glaze yet but I'm slowly getting there. The glazing pack will be available at the Warley show, should you be interested.

Geoff
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Thanks for persevering.

That does make a great improvement - what do you to fix them in place because nothing is visible?

I'm a BT customer Adrian, so I've plenty of experience when it comes to persevering :)

Glad you think it makes a difference, thank you.

The glazing is held in place with a touch of Humbrol enamel gloss varnish. In the past I've used 'Klear', but I can't even get the new formula around these parts. I did try Deluxe 'Glue 'N' Glaze but wasn't impressed with it, might as well have used PVA which is what it resembles.

Geoff
 

adrian

Flying Squad
Glad you think it makes a difference, thank you.
No problem - I built one many years ago in 7mm from a Cavalier kit. All etched brass and spent many hours poring over photos of the cab area to get it looking right and I'm not sure that we did actually manage to capture it properly. That head on shot looks like it's straight out of a Bradford Barton book.
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Giving your age away now that you've mentioned the old Cavalier kit Adrian :) I don't think the Tower Brass model managed to capture the front end either, perhaps its down to the way in which we view models in the larger scales?

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Now for a touch of Bradford Barton, the goal today is to complete the glazing, and detail at least one end. My old Railcar is now showing its age, but its chassis will live on under its replacement.

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Geoff
 

MikeH_83

Member
Nice few updates.. Those MSE signal brackets wheel things look fiddly to make.. Still it's all these little bits of detail that can add the most to a layout I think. Did you build your current track straight onto paper/card templot templates and leave them down? I find some say leave the trackwork on the paper/card and some that say lift it off
 

simond

Western Thunderer
I’m definitely in the “leave it down” camp. Otherwise the slide chair timbers go all over the place. I now stick my Templot plans together, stick the lot to card from cornflakes packets, and build on that. It all disappears under the ballast eventually.

Best
Simon
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Nice few updates.. Those MSE signal brackets wheel things look fiddly to make.. Still it's all these little bits of detail that can add the most to a layout I think. Did you build your current track straight onto paper/card templot templates and leave them down? I find some say leave the trackwork on the paper/card and some that say lift it off

Thank you Mike,

The small details can indeed be fiddly to make, but as you say they do add to a layout, especially if its on the small side like mine.

I did indeed build the track straight onto paper templates, and left them down. I used a good quality waterproof PVA, applied neat, making sure that they were all level, and fully bonded before adding the sleepers. I did have a few concerns about the templates lifting but have had no problems at all. I found it far easier to build everything in situ and ended up with a nice, smooth flowing stretch of trackwork.

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This was the scene in April 2016, templates all secure, sleepers down and track building underway.

I’m definitely in the “leave it down” camp. Otherwise the slide chair timbers go all over the place. I now stick my Templot plans together, stick the lot to card from cornflakes packets, and build on that. It all disappears under the ballast eventually.

Best
Simon

I agree with Simon, and am also firmly in the 'leave it down' camp.

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As Simon mentioned, everything soon disappears under the ballast.

Geoff
 

MikeH_83

Member
I’m definitely in the “leave it down” camp. Otherwise the slide chair timbers go all over the place. I now stick my Templot plans together, stick the lot to card from cornflakes packets, and build on that. It all disappears under the ballast eventually.

Best
Simon

Thank you Mike,

The small details can indeed be fiddly to make, but as you say they do add to a layout, especially if its on the small side like mine.

I did indeed build the track straight onto paper templates, and left them down. I used a good quality waterproof PVA, applied neat, making sure that they were all level, and fully bonded before adding the sleepers. I did have a few concerns about the templates lifting but have had no problems at all. I found it far easier to build everything in situ and ended up with a nice, smooth flowing stretch of trackwork.

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This was the scene in April 2016, templates all secure, sleepers down and track building underway.



I agree with Simon, and am also firmly in the 'leave it down' camp.

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As Simon mentioned, everything soon disappears under the ballast.

Geoff

Thanks Both! I shall leave them down then. I hadn't thought about waterproof PVA as I was just going to use normal but I guess when you wet the ballast it could disturb the paper too much. I best get looking for some good PVA then :)
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Thanks Both! I shall leave them down then. I hadn't thought about waterproof PVA as I was just going to use normal but I guess when you wet the ballast it could disturb the paper too much. I best get looking for some good PVA then :)

I know of modellers using the normal 'Evo-Stick Resin 'W' (Green Bottle) without any problems Mike, I was just playing safe. Its the 'el cheapo' stuff that needs to be avoided.

Geoff
 

Obblygobbly

Western Thunderer
A tin of contact adhesive also works well - slap it generously onto both paper template and whatever lies below with a flat applicator. I find it immovable once dry. It is also waterproof, so protects the baseboard below from any moisture from ballasting.

Don't use tubes of adhesive. They are a waste of money and difficult to cover the surfaces adequately. Tins are best.
 

MikeH_83

Member
I know of modellers using the normal 'Evo-Stick Resin 'W' (Green Bottle) without any problems Mike, I was just playing safe. Its the 'el cheapo' stuff that needs to be avoided.

Geoff
Thanks, Which stuff did you use? I will try to avoid the cheap stuff!

A tin of contact adhesive also works well - slap it generously onto both paper template and whatever lies below with a flat applicator. I find it immovable once dry. It is also waterproof, so protects the baseboard below from any moisture from ballasting.

Don't use tubes of adhesive. They are a waste of money and difficult to cover the surfaces adequately. Tins are best.

Thanks, I will have a look at that stuff :)
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Its that time of year again when my layout room starts to resemble Santa's Grotto, so before access to the layout became restricted by the grandchildren's presents I took a few photos.

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4678 which can just be seen beside the cattle dock, had just safely negotiated the now overgrown goods siding. Exchanging an empty 7 plank for a full one, household coal being in high demand due to the recent cold snap. All the signal wire posts, and wheels are now installed, leaving just the line side fencing to add in the New Year. The loop will also get the overgrown treatment at the same time, how far I take the final detailing remains to be seen.

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And now its back to the Railcar, just the fiddly bits to do now.

Geoff
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
At long last the Railcar glazing is complete, its been a fiddly job at times but I think its been worth it.

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The roof vents and buffers are Comet castings, grab rails and lamp irons are 'Frogmore' etchings.

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I've been using Colin Judge's book for reference purposes, along with the late Monty Wells articles in MRJ No.5 and 6. Monty built a twin car unit from three Lima models, but there was still plenty of useful info, not to mention tips for modelling the single car units. The next job is to chemically blacken the new detail, touch the paintwork up, and change the number to W22W.

Geoff
 

keefr22

Western Thunderer
Cracking job Geoff, that glazing really looks good and makes a world of difference - lovely looking model all round!

Keith
 
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