From Llangunllo to Llanbister Rd.

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Cracking job Geoff, that glazing really looks good and makes a world of difference - lovely looking model all round!

Keith

Thanks Keith,

I wasn't happy with the vac and steam pipes, so today's modelling session was spent on making my own from wire.

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The above combination of Railcar and trailer is prototypical, though the blue steam pipe isn't :) Not to worry the blackening fluid and paintbrush will put that right tomorrow.

Geoff
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Time for my last update for this year, and then I'll leave you all in peace until 2018 :)

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Only a new number, wiper arms, a little light weathering and a coat of varnish to go now.

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I was thinking of buying one of those new Dapol Class 122 single cars, but don't think I will bother now, as I'm more than happy with W22W.

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1455 shunting, sister engine 1420 with top feed is now on the workbench.

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7416 enters Llangunllo with a train for Leominster.

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1455 again on a local passenger train, the empty milk tanks will be dropped off and shunted into the creamery by 4678, which is waiting behind the photographer.

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That's all folks, have a wonderful Christmas, and a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

Geoff
 

keefr22

Western Thunderer
More lovely photo's of what is definitely my favourite layout -until you build another one Geoff...!! Great way to finish the year!

A really Merry Christmas & a Happy & peaceful New Year to you & yours too!

Keith
 

Suddaby

Western Thunderer
Merry Christmas Geoff, and thanks for regaling us with the ongoing tales of Llangunllo, an inspiration as much as anything for it's perfect application of "less is more". Mildly disappointed you didn't try 7mm, as I would have loved to see what you came up with - maybe in the future?? :p:p:p I look forward to whatever you do in 2018.
Best wishes,

Kevin
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
More lovely photo's of what is definitely my favourite layout -until you build another one Geoff...!! Great way to finish the year!

A really Merry Christmas & a Happy & peaceful New Year to you & yours too!

Keith
Merry Christmas Geoff, and thanks for regaling us with the ongoing tales of Llangunllo, an inspiration as much as anything for it's perfect application of "less is more". Mildly disappointed you didn't try 7mm, as I would have loved to see what you came up with - maybe in the future?? :p:p:p I look forward to whatever you do in 2018.
Best wishes,

Kevin

Thanks for you kind comments and Christmas wishes chaps, have a wonderful time yourselves.

Dapol have thrown a spanner in the works now they have announced a 14XX in 7mm scale Kevin, I'm not saying anymore for now ;)

Best Wishes,
Geoff
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
The idea of dabbling in 7mm scale returned over Christmas, so I decided to scratch the itch once and for all by returning to my idea of modelling a scene loosely based on Kington engine shed. With nothing to lose other than my sanity, I cleared a space and planned the idea out full size. I had already discovered that a 7mm scale model of Kington shed would be far too big, and favoured a stone building rather than one of brick. I also fancied the idea of modelling a couple of buildings designed by George Stokes.

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I prepared this rough sketch a while back when planning a 4mm scale diorama of the same scene. The track could curve to the right, or left on a scale 20 chain curve. The next stop involved mocking up a few buildings as well as the track plan, fortunately I have a friend who is a dab hand with Templot, and I ended up with this scheme which measures 6 ft x 16".......

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As you can see, even the cut down shed is enormous, and overpowers the scene, now that alone is a none starter for me. I started to mock the bridge up, but when I saw the size of it I had second thoughts. For the scene was becoming top heavy, more length and width could have improved things, but they are luxuries that I don't have. The other problem is finding room for the layout, bearing in mind that a least another 5ft would be needed for two cassette decks. And another thing, after thirty odd years of having a permanent layout I just couldn't put up with having to set things up, and take things down a couple of hours later. I could of course scrap Llangunllo, and rearrange my modelling room to avoid that, but I've unfinished business with the old layout. So I think this idea is more suitable for 4mm, and any thoughts of 7mm modelling would be best catered for by a simple termini such as this which has featured here before.

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No big engine shed, or mill, just simple rustic buildings, think wood, and wavey tin and you won't be far out. Having one cassette deck rather than two cuts the space needed straightaway, and though operating isn't at the top of my list this idea offers far more interest. What next, well I'll probably work this idea up in much the same way as the shed scheme, sit back and take on board the lessons that I've learned. In the meantime work continues on Llangunllo, but more of that another time.

Geoff
 
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Geoff

Western Thunderer
So what would be the footprint of the proposed 7mm branch terminus then please, Geoff?

Here you are Tim... I've played things safe and by my calculations should have an extra foot to play with lengthwise. The idea is to construct the buildings, build a couple of wagons and see how things pan out. Assuming I enjoy modelling in 7mm scale, and the Dapol 14XX turns out to be a decent model, then in time I would dismantle the old layout and construct this plan on the existing baseboard frames. I rather like the idea of doing an 'Arun Quay' and use a painted fabric backdrop. Scenery being constructed in jigsaw fashion, and supported on outriggers.
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Geoff
 

keefr22

Western Thunderer
Have to agree, Geoff it looks very good!

And you know how much I love Llangunllo Mk 1 and would therefore absolutely hate to see Beeching take his axe to it, if a 'bigger' version was to replace it, seeing the detail and atmosphere you achieve in 4mm, I think your 7mm Mk.2 would be magnificent!

Keith
 

Captain Kernow

Western Thunderer
I would dismantle the old layout and construct this plan on the existing baseboard frames
Hi Geoff,

It seems such a shame to have to dismantle the existing layout. A friend of mine is planning to build both 7mm and 4mm layouts in the same space, and is going to have the 4mm one above the 7mm one with 2 - 3 feet between them. Would that kind of approach work in your situation?
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Thanks for your comments, and likes chaps.

Having a double deck arrangement wouldn't work for me Tim, Llangunllo is pretty high off the floor, and runs diagonally across my modelling room. So I would need boxes to stand on if I built a new layout above it, and a good pair of knee pads were it below :)

At some point I'll be unable to take the old layout any further, and boredom will well and truly set in. Until then I can construct the buildings, and points, along with some rolling stock. Well that's the grand plan, so when the change takes place I will be able to hit the ground running. Of course I might find that 7mm scale isn't for me, and I wouldn't be the first, but for now at least I'm scratching that annoying itch:)

Geoff
 

adrian

Flying Squad
Having a double deck arrangement wouldn't work for me Tim, Llangunllo is pretty high off the floor, and runs diagonally across my modelling room. So I would need boxes to stand on if I built a new layout above it, and a good pair of knee pads were it below :)
When we were kids we used to have a pulley maid in the utility room, Pulleymaid™ OFFICIAL WEBSITE | Ceiling Pulley Clothes Airers, Dryers & Drying Racks. You could raise or lower a double deck arrangement so the appropriate layout was at a comfortable height! :thumbs:
 

ianlbsc

Western Thunderer
Well as a kid, my parents also had one of those, usually above the Trianco anthracite central heating boiler. When I bought a house with a relatively high ceiling, I found the firm, local to us just outside Lytham, called Sheilas Maid and put one up and promptly stopped using the Tumble Dryer. Cheaper, more ecological and apart from when the king size duvet covers are on it, very convenient as it is high up and out the way.
I don't think I would like to suspend a layout from it though!
The idea of an adjustable height layout has merit though, you could have it a bit higher if operating when standing up and lower when feeling a bit lazy and sitting down!
Thanks for the memory!
Cheers
Ian in Blackpool
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
When we were kids we used to have a pulley maid in the utility room, Pulleymaid™ OFFICIAL WEBSITE | Ceiling Pulley Clothes Airers, Dryers & Drying Racks. You could raise or lower a double deck arrangement so the appropriate layout was at a comfortable height! :thumbs:

We also had one of those pulleymaids when I was a kid, and its actually lying around in the garage. Can't see its components being used for a suspended layout though. For by the time you have factored in the clearances between the ceiling and the pulleys, then the height of the backscenes, the one on Llangunllo being 18" high, plus the depth of the baseboard frames which are 6", you would need a pretty high ceiling to squeeze another layout beneath it.

The idea of an adjustable height layout has merit though, you could have it a bit higher if operating when standing up and lower when feeling a bit lazy and sitting down!

It is an interesting idea Ian, an old school chums 10ft x 6ft layout was suspended in that manner in an outbuilding, which doubled as his fathers workshop.

Anyway, thanks for your suggestions chaps.
Geoff
 

Rob R

Western Thunderer
Geoff,

For me the only thing that gives it away is the rail joints, or lack of them - something that would be really easy to do on the 7mm build :)

I have read and re-read this thread (and the one on the other side) and it has been most inspirational.
Thank you for sharing Llangunllo's journey with us.

Rob
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Llangunllo south? :)

Almost, but not quite, you can now ask the audience or phone a friend Keith ;)

Geoff,

For me the only thing that gives it away is the rail joints, or lack of them - something that would be really easy to do on the 7mm build :)

I have read and re-read this thread (and the one on the other side) and it has been most inspirational.
Thank you for sharing Llangunllo's journey with us.

Rob

Thank you Rob, I'm pleased that you have enjoyed the journey so far, and have found some inspiration. As for the rail joints, well it was never my intention to add full detail to the fiddle yard. However in the run up to Christmas I had second thoughts, I've had a word with the ganger and he's slowly installing eight pairs of fishplates, which should do the job nicely. I don't notch the top of the rail as I find its a recipe for collecting dirt.

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These are EMGS fold up etches, and a rather fiddly to install, just waiting for a new element for my small Antex soldering iron and then I'll be on the case.


With eyesight like mine Simon, you must be joking :eek:

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On a different subject, Andrew at MSE now has the GWR ground signals back in stock, and also does some rather nice castings for signal wire post/wheels. They must be a recent addition for I could only find the 7mm version when I ran a search last year.

Geoff
 
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