7mm Midland Main Line c1898

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
Part 1 - Introduction

To be honest, it feels as if I’ve been designing / planning this model railway forever!!!

I first got back into model railways about 7 years ago, whilst working as a volunteer fireman at Peak Rail in Derbyshire. After finishing an early turn one day, I came across a copy of Railway Modeller magazine in the Crew Mess Hut, which contained an article on DCC and Computer control. I’d never heard of DCC, let alone linking it up with computers, but the potential for using this as the basis for designing a prototypically operated model railway, really excited me.

To cut a long story short, I then built a simple double line oval Test Track with a couple of passing loops, in order to help me get my head around DCC, and during this time, I also started to develop plans for the design of the layout.

I have to say, that this design has changed many, many times, and that what I am planning to build now, bears absolutely no resemblance to the various layout scenarios I experimented with over the years. However, the basic aims that I wanted to achieve with the railway, have remained pretty much unaltered since the beginning, and here they are:


1.The railway must have a sense of purpose. By this I mean that trains must go to, and come from, real places, working in real time, and to a reasonably historically accurate timetable.
2.The railway must create a sense of space and distance, such that all visual and audible information presented to the viewer / operator, promotes and confirms the illusion, that each section of the railway, is only one part of a much greater and more extensive network.
3.The railway must have fully interlocked points, signals and block sections, and thus the ability to be operated prototypically and to absolute block, including the (optional) use of block instruments between block posts, and lever frames with full mechanical interlocking.
4.The railway must be able to cope with single person operation, despite it’s complexity, yet, it must also be able to accommodate varying numbers of additional operators in various roles if desired (i.e. drivers, shunters, signalmen etc)
5.Locos and rolling stock must look, sound and behave like the real thing, without undue compromise, but where compromises must invariably occur, then the most realistic operational scenario must be adopted.
6.The railway must look realistic, conveying both, reasonable historical accuracy, with scenic believability.

Not much in that lot then:eek: !!

The geographical setting of the railway, covers a section of the Midland Main Line across the Derbyshire Peak District, and then on toManchester. Here are a couple of sketch maps I’ve done, to give you an idea of the location, and the principle lines involved:


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The date is set at the end of the 19th Century, partly because the Working Timetables I’m using are from 1898, but more importantly, because it pre-dates the building of a ‘cut off’ line between (just south of) New Mills and Heaton Mersey. This ‘cut off’ line gave the Midland Expresses a much faster route into Manchester than had previously been the case through Marple and Stockport, but, it is the intense level of traffic through Marple prior to this happening, that particularly interests me, as Marple is one of the ‘on stage’ stations that I’ll be modelling.

The other 2 ‘on stage’ stations will be Millers Dale, and Buxton, so here’s another sketch map, showing the geographical relationship between the 3 stations I plan to model:


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Well that’s probably enough for now, and I really hope that this diatribe hasn’t been too boring. I find it hard to know how to pitch these kind of things, so any feedback would be helpful and much appreciated.

Mike
 

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queensquare

Western Thunderer
Sounds very exciting, great choice of prototype and period. That's an awful lot of pre-group stock to build, shall look forward to seeing this one progress.

Jerry
 

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Western Thunderer
Hi Mike,

Well the back ground of the proposed layout sounds very interesting, and also set in one of the most scenic parts of the country.

Have you any plans drawn up of the layout itself and what sort of space have you got available?

With full mechanical interlocking and block sections there certainly won't be a dull moment especially when operated in " single operator mode ".

Sounds great and I look forward to reading future updates :thumbs:.

Martyn.
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Mike,
Having had chats with you on this project on a couple of occasions I'm really pleased to see you starting a thread here. The concept of employing genuine operations in a layout and therefore give the running of tasks a purpose is inspired.
A very exciting and novel project which deserves all the exposure it can get!
Please keep us informed how things progress; your failures as well as your successes will give those of us following in your footsteps a great deal too.
Steph
 

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
Thanks for the positive feedback and comments - I'll try and answer some of the issues raised this evening, after I've walked the dogs and put the ducks to bed.

Cheers

Mike
 

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
...... That's an awful lot of pre-group stock to build, shall look forward to seeing this one progress.

Jerry


Hi Jerry,

I have to confess that I'm not a builder, and much of the stock I have has been built by other people, either bought at shows or from eBay. I'd like to learn how to build, and very much admire the various models built by people on here (proper builders).

I have built one wagon though :) (yes, I know - just one??), and here it is:

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Unfortunately, it's not only the wrong company, but the wrong period as well??!! :headbang: Heh, ho.

Thanks for your comments

Mike
 

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Dikitriki

Flying Squad
Hi Jerry,

I have to confess that I'm not a builder, and much of the stock I have has been built by other people, either bought at shows or from eBay. I'd like to learn how to build, and very much admire the various models built by people on here (proper builders).

I have built one wagon though :) (yes, I know - just one??), and here it is:

Mike

Hi Mike,

I'd have to say that the wagon you have built gives a lie to most of your professions not to build. If you can do that, you can do a loco - you just need to choose the right kit.

Cheers

Richard
 

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Western Thunderer
Hi Jerry,

I have to confess that I'm not a builder, and much of the stock I have has been built by other people, either bought at shows or from eBay. I'd like to learn how to build, and very much admire the various models built by people on here (proper builders).

I have built one wagon though :) (yes, I know - just one??), and here it is:



Unfortunately, it's not only the wrong company, but the wrong period as well??!! :headbang: Heh, ho.

Thanks for your comments

Mike

Hi Mike,

I totally agree with what Richard has said, and it certainly looks like you have mastered the art of soldering, the wagon looks very clean and tidy :thumbs:.

Martyn.
 

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
Hi Richard, Martyn and Ken,

Thanks for your positive comments about the wagon - I started it under supervision at one of the soldering tutorials at the Telford O Gauge Show, and then finished it off at home. I have to say that I found the tutorial incredibly helpful, as it showed me where I'd been going wrong in my previous attempts at soldering (not enough heat).

I do have some kits I've bought with the intention of building them, so perhaps now I ought to take the plunge and have a go at one. Perhaps a 6 wheel coach would be a good starting point (I certainly need some), as I still feel that a loco would be beyond me at the moment.

Thanks again

Mike
 

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
Have you any plans drawn up of the layout itself and what sort of space have you got available?


Hi Again Martyn,

I do have a detailed plan of the layout, but unfortunately it isn't in a decent enough state to be able to post here yet. I should have tidied it up over the next few days though, so I'll post it when it's ready.

The layout will be built in my attic over 3 rooms, and here is a diagram showing the basic layout and dimensions:

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I've labelled the rooms to give some idea of where the key 'on stage' stations are located, and here is a further 3D snapshot, viewed from above the stairwell with the 'main room' on the right, to give a better sense of space.

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Cheers, and thanks for you comments

Mike
 

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adrian

Flying Squad
Impressive plans - it'll keep you busy for a while. I remember spending many an hour watching the trains at Slaters when they had a model of Millers Dale. Late 19th. Century timescale, will this include any green loco's or is it too late?
I'll be watching with interest.
 

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
You and how many people are doing this?


Ha, ha, ha :)

Seriously though, I don't think it's too big a project to tackle as a one man band, as for me, the most difficult bit has been working out and proving the concept, and I've done that now.

I've also used my previous 'test track' to good effect, in identifying all the various bits of DCC kit I will be using, so that will also save a lot of time, as well as helping me to avoid various potential 'blind alleys.'

Peco track and points are also very easy and quick to lay :D

Cheers
Mike
 

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
And how will the LNWR at Buxton fit in with your ideas?


Hi Graham,

You know I really wanted to model the two stations side by side, but in the end, I decided that there just wasn't the room. This for me has been the hardest thing whilst trying to design the layout - accepting what I had to leave out!!

It won't stop me finding various suspect and creative reasons to include LNW trains as Specials, and/or filling in for the MS&L working out of London Road though :), just as I can also easily see the GNR and NER working into Buxton (after coming over Woodhead) on 'Taking of the Waters' Specials.

There are so many stunning locomotives and coaching stock from other companies, if one or two of them turn up in unlikely locations and on the wrong metals, where's the harm I say :thumbs:

Cheers

Mike
 

Mike Sheardown

Western Thunderer
.....I remember spending many an hour watching the trains at Slaters when they had a model of Millers Dale.


Hi Adrian,

The twin viaducts on that model were stunning weren't they?!!! I have a Gauge O Guild video of it, and still watch it quite often.

Mike
 
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