1/32 New Wagon Kits

Discussion in 'G1/32' started by Marc Dobson, 22 July 2020.

  1. Marc Dobson

    Marc Dobson Western Thunderer

    Hi
    I have very little knowledge of Gauge 1 so please excuse my ignorance, as I'm a 7mm modeller, but one of my customers has asked me I it was possible to manufacture my GER wagon range in Gauge 1.
    What sort of features would people be looking for in a G1 wagon kit? And dare I say it pay for a kit?
    The current 7mm range is:
    1. 10ton Box Van (builds vent and non vent versions)
    2. 10ton fitted vent van
    3. 8ton single bolster
    4. 3 plank fixed sides on a steel under frame
    5. 3 plank Drop side on a wooden under frame
    6. 5 plank on a steel under frame
    7. 5 plank on a wooden under frame
    8. 5 plank on a steel under frame
    9. plank on a steel under frame
    10. 10ton brake van (build 9ft or 10ft3 WB versions
    11. 7ton large cattle van
    12. 8ton single bolster.
    Marc
     
  2. lankytank

    lankytank Western Thunderer

    First you have to navigate that stormy sea that is the different scales of G1 - you can chose from 10mm:1ft or 1:32....... And I don't give a :shit: what anybody else says, yes, you can tell the difference.:thumbs:

    Slaters started off with 10mm then quickly changed to 1:32 when they realised that the promised sales weren't there. Northern Fine Scale, after many years of producing 10mm models have recently switched to 1:32 (but I can't recall anything coming from them for a couple or three years??).

    Choice is yours but could reflect on number of sales if you get it right. Good luck.
     
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  3. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    Have a look at Trevors range at Mercian of both 10mm & 1/32, although most of them are now to order only - which may tell you something ?
    1/32 Rolling Stock Page 1
     
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  4. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Mercian have a good range especially with the early coaches. Too late to swap over from G3 now.

    Jon
     
  5. Keith Phillips

    Keith Phillips Western Thunderer

    Interesting. From a personal point of view, 1:32 scale is a must. A good level of attention to detail, balanced with the cost of the product. Fred Phipps wagons show what can be done and the price is fair, as are the 1:32 Slaters kits. A 1:32 Van from GWR, LNER, or LMS that saw good service in BR days would be great. Easy to build too as I don't have a huge amount of tools or experience (1/32 - Slaters Midland Railway 10T Van Build) . On a general level though, the G1 market seems to love the easy to assemble Northern Fine Scale and Accucraft Wagons (RTR). These are fine trundling along behind a loco but don't look too closely at the detail. Coming in at £70-90 they are very popular.

    Hope this helps and good luck with the project :thumbs:

    Cheers,

    Keith
     
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  6. geoff_nicholls

    geoff_nicholls Western Thunderer

    I model in G3, but did model 1/32 scale narrow many years. It's a very nice scale, you can walk into any Stationers and buy a cheap ruler maked in 1/32". If you have any 3D printed parts, resizing might be easier to 1/32 than 10mm. The track gauge for both is 45mm, accurate for the former undersize for the latter. I had 3D printed rolling stock upsized from 10mm to G3 and had problems with the distance between the W irons, and the brake blocks fouled the wheels.
     
  7. David Halfpenny

    David Halfpenny Western Thunderer

    Marc,

    The Gauge One Model Railway Association has a "1:32 Finescale" special interest group, that I coordinate.

    I'd love to take this further with you, though I'm snowed-under with Covid-Crap at the moment.

    Here is a good place to do it in public, because more people can chip in, or by all means contact me at:
    1.32.finescale(at)gmail.com

    David Halfpenny
    G1MRA
     
  8. Marc Dobson

    Marc Dobson Western Thunderer

    Having spent a little time looking at what we can possibly do. So we have made some design decisions the first one being anything we will be in 1/32.
    About 33% of our current 7mm kits could be done once my 3D printer arrives and as I retool some of our other wagons they also could be also produced in G1.

    Marc
     
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  9. Marc Dobson

    Marc Dobson Western Thunderer

    I have started with the G1 1/32 project Slater's have just delivered a Midland box van. We are away for the weekend so I will start to have a look at it when I get back. I also have a 7mm version in the to-do list so I'm going to dig that out and compare the two.
    Marc
     
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  10. Mwfanwy

    Mwfanwy New Member

    I've only recently started in 1/32 Gauge 1 having acquired an Accucraft live steam GWR large Prairie tank engine. Looking for suitable stock, I purchased a Slater's 6 wheel milk tank kit, which I am finding hideously difficult (at least for me) and beyond the level of detail which I need. Not having my own track, I run on my local ME club's outdoor 32/43mm track.
    As there appears to be a lack of choice, I would buy reasonably simple to make, realistic looking kits in 1/32 scale, (NOT 10mm) both wagons and coaches, preferably of early BR period when the changeover from big four stock was just getting started. Life is too short to scratch build in this scale!
    Some may know Accucraft have plans to introduce a 1/32 scale live steam GWR/BR(W) 2-6-0 Mogul next year and possibly a 2-8-0 47XX "Night Owl" later, so I and I suspect others will be looking for stock to run behind. Of course Accucraft already have the lovely B1 for sale now. Apparently Aster plan to introduce a 1/32 live steam P2 to complement their "Tornado".
    I should add, I have nothing to do with Accucraft or Aster, other than as a satisfied customer.
     
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  11. Marc Dobson

    Marc Dobson Western Thunderer

    We do a number of GWR and GWR grouped wagons in our 7mm range some are easier than others to replicate in 1/32 as they are already a 3D cad model. All our 7mm kit are of prototypes built before 1923 but a good 50% would have lasted until the late 40's early 50's when they would have been replaced with standard BR wagons.
    Marc
     
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  12. There, and I thought it was me! When I read what others have to say about Slaters kits I'm quite relieved that trying to assemble one isn't entirely due to my stupidity.

    I'm now at the painting stage. Since the wheels are in situ how can I mask off those areas that do not require finishing at this time, please?

    I do not have sophisticated painting equipment, at best Halfords pressurized cans.

    Any advice would be welcome.

    Thank you.

    SW
     
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  13. I was interested in your comment "hideously difficult ", because that sums up my efforts with their BR Standard/Meat van ref G100/G101". I shall watch Marc's posts with interest because from what I've seen of the instructions for his MR 10t box van they are certainly better explained.

    SW
     
  14. Mwfanwy

    Mwfanwy New Member

    Hi Sarah, Slater's instructions and drawings, don't tally up with the parts. It's really not good enough! Anyway, here is a picture of the chassis to date with an axlebox plastic m0ulding and the brass axleguard frets for one side. There are tiny gaps where the side frames meet the buffer beams which I'll have to fill. I think I've sorted out how the axelbox parts go together, but I'll not glue anything yet until I'm sure. Maybe there is someone who has constructed one of these kits and can offer guidance on how these bits fit? IMG_2399.JPG
     
  15. Mwfanwy

    Mwfanwy New Member

    Thanks for the link, I'll have a look. I've sent a complaint to Slaters. We'll see what happens. And I was going to build a rake of these!
     
  16. Marc Dobson

    Marc Dobson Western Thunderer

    Luckily there are a number of variants that we do already in 7mm so I full fill your wish for a rake without replication.
    Are people happy with the axle box springing arrangements?
    Marc
     
  17. Mike W

    Mike W Western Thunderer

    Looks like the same design that Slaters use in Gauge 3, which works very well indeed. IF it is the same.

    Mike
     
  18. Marc Dobson

    Marc Dobson Western Thunderer

    It's a more prototypical system than there 7mm kits. But you can buy something similar from them in 7mm as an additional part.
    Marc
     
  19. Keith Phillips

    Keith Phillips Western Thunderer

    If it is the same as on the 10t Van then I am very happy with it. I'd go so far as to say it is the best running wagon of my limited fleet.

    Cheers,

    Keith