Passing of an era - HST - Leeds

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
The last LNER branded HSTs are running on the ECML Friday 20/12 (Edinburgh 09.37, Berwick, Newcastle, York and Leeds 16.20) and Saturday 21/12 (Leeds 11.01 to KX 15.09 and stopping at most of the major stations on the way). Grab your cameras!

The LNER HST Farewell – UK Railtours

This is one of my photos (unprocessed) taken at York not long after their introduction.

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I was chatting to a RAIB inspector on my way back from Bristol a fortnight ago who informed me the LNER Mk iv sets are now heading for scrapyards.
 
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oldravendale

Western Thunderer
I'm pleased to say that two power cars have been presented to the GCR (North) by Porterbrook. Unfortunately the prototype HST has been returned or is being returned to York. I don't know how many MkIV vehicles the GCR has at its disposal but certainly the prospect of a full HST in preservation is there. There's also consideration of retro fitting a Valenta engine to one of the power cars but as I'm firmly in the steaming kettles department I've no idea whether this is practical, possible, or whether enough bits still exist to build a whole engine.

A most recent addition has been a 144 unit, although why anyone would want to preserve one of those I've no idea unless it's to demonstrate how to transport people in the east favourable circumstances! Possibly best displayed alongside a 20th C cattle truck.

Brian
 

Temeraire

Western Thunderer
I'm pleased to say that two power cars have been presented to the GCR (North) by Porterbrook. Unfortunately the prototype HST has been returned or is being returned to York. I don't know how many MkIV vehicles the GCR has at its disposal but certainly the prospect of a full HST in preservation is there. There's also consideration of retro fitting a Valenta engine to one of the power cars but as I'm firmly in the steaming kettles department I've no idea whether this is practical, possible, or whether enough bits still exist to build a whole engine.

A most recent addition has been a 144 unit, although why anyone would want to preserve one of those I've no idea unless it's to demonstrate how to transport people in the east favourable circumstances! Possibly best displayed alongside a 20th C cattle truck.

Brian

You're confusing Mk4 with Mk3 coaches. MK4s work with the class 91's and the MK3s with the HSTs.

Unlikely any Mk4 will be preserved (though never say never). Some are destined for further use with Transport for Wales I believe though happy to be corrected on that. The only Mk4s being scrapped at the moment are some of the TFs as not as many are needed in Wales.
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
Thanks for clarifying that. As I said earlier, my knowledge of current railway operations is very sketchy. I know GCR (North) has some Mk3s so it sounds as though a full HST is indeed a probability.

Brian
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
A most recent addition has been a 144 unit, although why anyone would want to preserve one of those I've no idea

Why not? Remember our surprise at the number of donated relatively new buses we saw at the Acton LT Museum.

On the other hand it does provide the GCR with a relatively cheap to maintain and an on call passenger unit. No messy start up procedures, marshalling, run arounds etc.
 

Chris Veitch

Western Thunderer
No messy start up procedures, marshalling, run arounds etc.
If indeed they can get it to start. I seem to recall from several utterly miserable years of relying on them for my daily transport that mechanical reliability wasn’t their strong suit.
 
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Neil

Western Thunderer
Thought that too when I looked at the images. Certainly knocks spots off the current Trans Pennine Express livery, train dressed in a shell suit.

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76043

Western Thunderer
Apparently it started with the Crossrail units, someone decided the lights are so powerful you don't need one. Makes you wonder why they didn't just build a lighthouse on the front of 60 diesels.
 
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