7mm Pencarrow - Cornish BR(S)

Discussion in 'Layout Progress' started by Pencarrow, 1 March 2016.

  1. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    1980s Stone cladding going on:

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    Glimpse of the grain store through the wharf building from the rear of the layout.

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    I'm now being evicted from the train room - no1 daughter is having friends over for a sleepover. Floor now required for a disco and then bedroom. Perhaps I should move into her room?
     
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  2. Paul Cambridge

    Paul Cambridge Western Thunderer

    I hope the sleepover excludes the pony!! The grain store is starting to look the part.
    Kelly Bray is still in deep stasis. I’m still working on some 16mm stock and don’t want to start on my 7mm scale loco kit build until after we move, whenever that is...... :'(
     
  3. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    No ponies allowed Paul. I suspect a lot of people are holding tight on house sales until it becomes apparent what the effect of the political chaos will be post Brexit. Best hunker down and build kits I think!

    Wharf building is progressing. Having to severely ad-lib on some aspect due to a combination of a lack of photos of some bits and the building being altered to suit my layout. But here we go:

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    30 mins until chaos descends.
     
  4. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    Good progress :thumbs:.

    Now, is the glass of water in the background being supped or has it evaporated whilst measuring, cutting and gluing the styrene since post #700? :)
     
  5. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Dave, just goes to prove my body is a temple...
     
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  6. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Or too much beer on Friday night.

    Looks good Chris. Must get back to mine. I did do some timber shoving on the plan the other night. I was supposed to be trying to get my info of a hard drive that has decided to have a life of its own without interference from outside sources.
     
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  7. Paul Cambridge

    Paul Cambridge Western Thunderer

    Problem is Chris, I have packed up my little basic lathe, dismantled and pack my drill press and also packed up my RSU. All bits of kit I will need for the loco kit. I’m going to do a bit of wagon scratch building next in 16mm scale.
     
  8. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    No1 daughter has been busy making an interior for the wharf building...

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  9. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Funny thing, working on this building is giving me flashbacks to making the Treneglos station building in 2002/3.

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    Lots of weird angles and abuse of Wills stonework.
     
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  10. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Making the lean-to end wall as a separate unit, much easier to work on.

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    Double doors yet to be made but there will be a gap above and below.

    The unit goes here:

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    And yes, it is mad to detail the rear of a building which is at the back of the layout.
     
  11. 7mmMick

    7mmMick Western Thunderer

    I love that timber Chris, it really looks the part and adds depth to the structure. Any chance of an insight into materials/methods?

    Mick
     
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  12. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Slight update. Timber added to the doors:

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    Mick, I'll describe the method once I've cooked tea.
     
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  13. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer


    Have you been copying my best carpentry?

    Looks good Chris.
     
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  14. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    As requested by Mick... My method of doing timber.

    Piece of plasticard, score in the planks with a knife. Don't cut all the way through yet.
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    Next get a coarse razor saw or similar. Hold it vertically, drag sideways down the length of the planks in the direction of the wood grain. The number of passes and coarseness of the saw will affect the grain effect in the plasticard.

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    Next I go over the wood with a metal scribe, concentrating on the ends and other areas of decay.

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    Follow with more distressing using a variety of sharp point things.

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    Now separate the planks along the previously scored plank lines. Further distress edges to suit.

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    Job done.

    The brown timber was produced using the same methods but the starting point was offcuts of Wills planking with were on the workbench. The colouring is accidental, solvent picking up black marker pen.
     
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  15. Bob 81C

    Bob 81C Active Member

    Nice work Chris I've noticed you build methods are similar to mine including
    landscape built up with polystyrene real old school stuff. :thumbs:
     
  16. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Depends on what's needed. Methods I use to build up the landscape include polystyrene/celotex for big lumps or foamboard for verticals and flats. Generally covered with a layer of lightweight filler from Wickes.

    These days I try and stay away from using timber or ply to build up scenics. I also have finally given using odds and sods of old building plaster or artex etc - too inflexible and too heavy.

    Never got on with the formers and chicken wire approach nor card formers and paper mache. IMO, unless done very well, the formers have a tendency to show through the landscape as ridges, plus (again IMO) the landforms don't tend to flow as well as carving them from a block and adjusting to suit.

    No progress on the building this week - doing silly hours again within days of returning to work after Christmas.
     
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  17. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    It's strange. When making things in plasticard you normally spend ages trying to keep this straight and square.

    Today I'm trying to get the damned stuff to do the opposite. Bendy and curved. On the side of the wharf building with the larger opening, at what will be ground level in this side, I want the appearance of the roof trusses having sunk pushing the beam and wall out. Currently at this point:

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    The wooden beam has sunk from the weight of the roof.

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    With the wall and beam pushed out of true.

    I'm thinking that a wooden truss or buttress may be needed too.
     
  18. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Having a bit of a think at the moment and wondered what others' views are...

    Here's a top down view of the end station board. Photo taken from the rear (bottom of photo). Normally the layout will be viewed from the front (top of photo). The layout continues on to the left of the photo. The long building on the right is the grain store which forms the end of the layout. A backscene will sweep around the rear of the layout and the side, with a 12" radius corner.

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    So the normal viewing angle of the wharf building will be as below but from 1m away.

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    I've been caught out before not detailing or even finishing the sides of buildings and structures that can't normally be seen - particularly when you want to take photos of the layout.

    I can envisage that at some stage I'll want to take a photo or two from the rear corner towards the front of the layout and the platform face of the station, something like the shots below:

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    The normally not seen side of the wharf building with the large opening is now very much in view.

    So to me it's clear I can't just leave it blank (hence the stonework and beam etc) but how far do I go? Options are:

    1. Put closed doors on the opening and a completly intact roof.
    2. Model the doors partly open to the inside can be glimpsed, again with an intact roof.
    3. Model the doors open and or the roof dilapidated with a section of tiles missing meaning the interior and roof beams have to be modelled.

    I'm currently torn between all three.
     
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  19. Bob 81C

    Bob 81C Active Member

    Doors a jar with roof lights or half the roof off being repaired.
     
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  20. Paul Cambridge

    Paul Cambridge Western Thunderer

    Another vote for what Bob 81C has suggested. We didn’t want to make it too easy for you......:cool:
     
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