Spartan Bridge - ' East Lancashire Shropshire Style'

marsa69

Western Thunderer
Hello all,

Right then. You Western Region boys have asked for this ;D time for a much needed, very un-western layout (well its North West based so don't moan too much). You can actually thank 'iploffy' for this as he gave me the verbal aris kicking to move it over from RMweb. So blame him :)) :)) :))

The beginning:-

Hi all,

When the Manchester & Leeds opened their Bolton - Bury stretch in 1848 they decided to build a joint line with the East Lancashire Railway. The new 'joint' line left the Bolton - Bury line just past Darcy Lever passing through Breightmet, Harwood, Tottington and finally reaching the village of 'Spartan Bridge' in 1850. Spartan Bridge is situated roughly halfway between Edgworth and Ramsbottom and was founded by the ancestors of Leonard Spartan, 30th Earl of Spartan Bridge. It soon became a focal point for local quarry traffic from the West Pennine moors. While the M & L built this stage of the line, the East Lancs built the line from Spartan Bridge to join up with the Bury - Rawtenstall line at a junction just south of Stubbins and the junction for Helmshore. The next stage from Bacup towards Todmorden was opened in 1854, giving the M & L and the ELR a new east - west route from Leeds to Liverpool. In the meantime the M & L built a link from Spartan Bridge through Edgworth to link with the Bolton - Blackburn line north of Turton. Within a few years of these lines opening, Spartan Bridge had become a thriving town and a busy railway junction.

However like the rest of the Lancashire towns this prosperity and affluence began to wane. The Bacup - Todmorden section closed in 1961, 5 yrs before the Rawtenstall - Bacup and the Stubbins Junction - Spartan Bridge stretch in 1966. Passenger traffic from Bolton ceased the same year as the more famous Bury - Rawtenstall line in 1972 and Spartan Bridge lost all its services in 1975. Unlike the Bury - Rawtenstall line it was never considered for preservation. The line however was never formally closed, only mothballed. In the mid 80's Greater Manchester County Council along with Lancashire County Council embarked on using some of the disused quarries south of Spartan Bridge for landfill purposes and 'Binliner' workings commenced in 1986 after the line was brought back up to operational standards. In 1987, now that the line was operational again, Pennine rail services similar to the Dales rail services were introduced in the summer. These were a success and continued up until 2000. The 'Binliner' workings had stopped in 1997 after protests from environmental groups. The line again became mothballed until Lancashire County Council, Bolton Council and Spartan Bridge District Council, in 2002, looked at re-introducing passenger services in the region to ease congestion on the local roads. Also the local quarry company 'Spartan Stone' expressed an interest in transferring its business to rail if the line did indeed re-open. Limited stone workings commenced in 2006. Also the ELR was approached to see if they would be interested in re-opening the stretch to Stubbins Junction. In the same year a Bolton businessman set up a rail business in Spartan Bridge offering rolling stock repair and maintenance in anticipation of full services being resumed. Long-term plans also looked into buying second-hand locos and stock and moving into the infrastructure market. This company, 'Wolfrail', opened its wagon repair shop in Spartan Bridge in 2007 and has acquired 3 x Cl33 locos for infrastructure and spot-hire work, once the locos have been overhauled. Hopefully 2009 will see the return of full passenger services and longer term a 'heritage' connection to the ELR.

Hope you've stayed with me until now, :)) :)) :))

The boards themselves are 12mm MDF on 2"x1" battens for support. There are 3 boards in total all 4' x 2' with the end board at 90 degrees to the other two to give an 'L' shape. The boards, being MDF, have been primed. The boards were actually finished in Sept 08 but a lack of finalizing a track plan and one various family emergency/disaster/incident after another kept putting things back and in the end my get up and go got up and went and took my modelling mojo with it. Originally I wanted the layout to include a two road wagon shed, single platform station, arrival road for a Bo-Bo loco plus 4 wagons of say Grampus/Limpet size and possibly a couple of sidings as well. A lot I know for the space available and in 7mm as well. I also wanted a busy look to the layout but not the 'cram as much track as possible into the smallest space' look. Oh and I wanted at least 5' radius curves. I know, I know, not much to ask for I hear you say.

After a cheerful discussion with Ian (iploffy) I finally re-discovered a sliver of my modeling mojo. So buoyed by its rediscovery I cleared the boards of all the accumulated carp :eek: ;D and finally settled on a plan. Using the northern approaches to the real life Bolton station for inspiration I'm aiming to re-create a similar station approach on my layout. Out goes the wagon repair shop and single platform station. In comes a three platform station (one platform will be for postal services) each big enough to handle a 2-car DMU. Also a truncated Up line which will be long enough to stable a loco and three stabling sidings with headshunt. Scenery will be minimal as anyone who has seen the northern approaches to Bolton station know that its all walled in, which makes the scenery side of things easier.

Progress will be slow and piecemeal I'm afraid so I'll apologize for that now. Once I get the camera charged I'll take some photos of a full size mock up to show you what I have in mind. For now I have a PRMRP Cl47 and 4 wagons ready for use (3 wagons need painting yet). I also have 3 x Lima 33s which are going to be a long term thing as my next two targets are a JLTRT 37 and a shunter of some description, preferably a DJH beginners 03.

If you're still awake and with me after all that then well done and thanks for sticking it out :eek: :thumbs:

best regards,

Mark
 

lancer1027

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

Well Mark that sound like a great idea :thumbs: ( well apart from the TOTALLY NON WESTERN bit) :lol: :lol: I still think you should have a re-think as ALL layouts should have Hydraulics running :lol:
Dont forget to post the progress pics though :pictures: . :thumbs:

Right now off to sort iploffy (Ian) as he is to blame :shit: :lol: :lol:
Rob :wave:
 

Phill Dyson

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

:scratch: If it's connected to the ELR then you need to erm improve your loco stud, as obviously :rolleyes: D1041 Western Prince, D832 Onslaught & Hymek D7076 would be regular visitors to help out those inferior diesel electrics :laugh: & that's not mentioning ELR visiting loco's D1062 Western Courier, D1023 Western Fusilier,D7017 & D7018 etc, I think once you have made these improvements you will have a very promising layout :p :lol:

Phill :wave:

P.S. :pictures:
 

marsa69

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

I get the feeling that some of you want to see some photos? If you insist  :D

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This is board 1. In the foreground where the steel rule is will be the exit/entrance to the fiddle yard. The stabling sidings are at the top of the photo.

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Board 2. The hub of station activity. You can see the 3-way at the yard entrance and the 47 sitting where the headshunt will be. The centre two tracks lead to the island platforms making up platforms 2 & 3. In the foreground the crossover to platform 1 which will be the parcels/passenger/heritage platform. The timber batten indicates the old 'up' line which will be another headshunt/stabling road.

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Board 3. 'Next' catalogues posing as platforms 1-3 looking right to left. The station will bridge the tracks, a la Bolton, with a road tunnel leading onto the open area to the right. This being where postal and PWay road vehicles get access to platform 1 and various portacabins for the local Railtrack/Network Rail teams.

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This shows where the fiddle yard will be. Because the size of the room precludes extending board 1 in a normal manner I've had to think outside the box. I'm going to build a simple shelf that will bolt to the bedroom doorframe directly to the front and join up with board 1 where the track leaves the board. It'll be big enough for two sidings, more than enough for what I need. A temporary measure I know until we either a) move house and I get a bigger room or b) hell freezes over and the wife lets me move into 'her' spare room  :lol:

In my previous post I said that stock wise I had a 37 and a shunter in my queue. The shunter will now have to get put back as I will need a DMU of some description and the 37 kit is booked.

Thats where I'm upto. Need to crack on with some more trackbuilding and lay the sidings out by the weekend. So watch this space, but not too closely  :shock:
 

westernfan

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

that brings back memories i spent about 3 months planning experimenting with dog legs, and inglenocks then i splashed out on a double slip and it sort of came together . i look forward to your next update :thumbs:
 

marsa69

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

I had toyed with the idea of purchasing another double slip and replacing the wye turnout in photo 2. I used to have one but sold when I thought I didn't need it  :headbang: But I reckon my plan will be alright as it is. I reckon a double slip might be just 'too' much for the space I've got.

And just for a change of scenery from all those hydraulics that proliferate this site, enjoy  :drool:

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Phill Dyson

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

Jordan said:
[quote=""marsa69"":2ybyaeh2]....A temporary measure I know until .... b) hell freezes over and the wife lets me move into 'her' spare room :lol:
When Hell freezes over SWMBO will let me actually bring my models into the house... :oops: :rolleyes: :|[/quote:2ybyaeh2]
Sounds like you both need a garden railway :laugh:
 

28ten

Guv'nor
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

Jordan said:
[quote=""marsa69"":3e0bmxzd]....A temporary measure I know until .... b) hell freezes over and the wife lets me move into 'her' spare room :lol:
When Hell freezes over SWMBO will let me actually bring my models into the house... :oops: :rolleyes: :|[/quote:3e0bmxzd]
You chaps need to put your foot down and show who is boss :D
 

iploffy

OC Blue Brigade
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

28ten said:
[quote=""Jordan"":3bh8vp49][quote=""marsa69"":3bh8vp49]....A temporary measure I know until .... b) hell freezes over and the wife lets me move into 'her' spare room :lol:
When Hell freezes over SWMBO will let me actually bring my models into the house... :oops: :rolleyes: :|[/quote:3bh8vp49]
You chaps need to put your foot down and show who is boss :D[/quote:3bh8vp49]

you chaps should really get a model like mine :bowdown: :bowdown: ok she doesn't like the work bench in the house :headbang: :headbang: but she wants her own Duchess and a 9F ha ha :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Ian
 

marsa69

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

Have you done any of the class 33's yet Mark ?

Not yet Phill. To be honest I really haven't a clue as to what I'm doing a lot of the time. I did make a start on a spare 33 bodyshell which I got with one of my locos. That consisted of drilling/hacking out the roof fan and horn boxes and also starting to remove the blue livery. And it's still like that 18mths later :( With me it's always a case of trying to do things in ogical steps which a lot of the time puts me further back as I keep changing my mind on which way to progress :shit:
 

Phill Dyson

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

:scratch: Maybe you should start a workbench on one of them when you feel like it , there are at least two of us on here who have done them who would be happy to point you in the right direction if you get stuck ;) . Ross who posts on here has done about twenty or so of them (he did the ones on the PRMP website & show stand) so there's plenty of guidance here you need it :)
Phill :thumbs:
 

marsa69

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

To be honest what I really need is 'the complete idiots guide for idiots' or 'class 33 detailing for dummies' :oops:
 

marsa69

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

Hi guys,

I'm hoping that there are one or two 'templot' gurus out there who can help me? I've forgotten everything :headbang: about templot and need to knock up a plan for a B6 R/H crossover. Any takers?
 

28ten

Guv'nor
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

marsa69 said:
Hi guys,

I'm hoping that there are one or two 'templot' gurus out there who can help me? I've forgotten everything :headbang: about templot and need to knock up a plan for a B6 R/H crossover. Any takers?
I will reload tomorrow and see what I can do I can just about manage a crossover :scratch:
 

marsa69

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

I think Private Ploffy may have been referring to me :laugh:

Work has actually continued apace :shock: and I have gained an extra siding to the plan. I know, I know, I said that the plan had been finalised :oops: It came about because I have decided that I will build the station crossover as one complete entity. So that gave me a spare Peco turnout which will replace the straight panel on board two, the one coming off the right hand road of the three way. So far I have fixed down this 'new' turnout and the one on board one for the sidings. I've also made up another 3 panels of straight track and together with the displaced one from board two the short sidings on board one are glued down and drying nicely :D

All I need now is to get hold of some epoxy resin to build my two whitemetal bufferstop kits which will complete the sidings. Instead of wasting perfectly good sleepers on these I made up some crude sleepers from the leftover sprues that the C+L sleepers came moulded to. I just cut them down to length, cleaned them up and they are ready for fixing. I'm not bothered about the dimensions of these homemade sleepers as they are going to be buried under ballast/sand/gunge and won't be seen, along with the incorrectly timbered track in the farthest siding.

And before anyone else says it I'll say it first :pictures:

Pictures to follow tomorrow (hopefully)

Mark
 

lancer1027

Western Thunderer
Spartan Bridge - East Lancashire in 7mm

YEP must have pics. As not many of us can actually read :lol:
 
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