Talerddig Mk ll (micro layout)

Discussion in 'Layout Progress' started by matto21, 23 July 2017.

  1. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    You may have a point.... maybe next time! :thumbs:
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  2. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Hi all,

    Well I am now the proud owner of a 1:1 scale baby! Funnily enough, after I've done all my supporting/cleaning/washing/ helping etc etc I have found myself with some time while mother and baby are asleep.

    I've managed to crack on with a project to build some 16t minerals "on the cheap".

    I was surfing online a while back and I came across unpainted mineral wagon bodies from Dapol so I bought a couple.

    I happened to have the underframe parts from a Parkside kit - the body parts were involved in an unfortunate accident several years ago involving spilt glue!

    Although the body is sold as being for a 10ft chassis and the kit is 9ft, I thought I'd have a go at combining the two.


    In my humble opinion, it's worked quite well so long as you can ignore the obvious difference in length (I can although I appreciate not everyone could).


    For a grand total of £1.50 I think it's been worthwhile. Not having the undeframe parts and having to buy a Parkside chassis would bump the price up depending on where you shop, but it'd still be cheaper than a kit!


    It's a bit of a bodge but it'll do for me!

  3. phileakins

    phileakins Western Thunderer

    What - the baby?

    Congratulations, get all the sleep you can!


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  4. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Haha! The baby is perfect, unlike my modelling!
  5. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    I've been putting off and off actually laying track for a variety of reasons, mainly to do with my lack of electrics understanding. I thought it was about time I started mapping this thing out on some lining paper.


    I think it's dawning on me how small this thing is!

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  6. 76043

    76043 Western Thunderer

    I think those Dapol mineral wagon bodies were originally the Hornby Dublo plastic bodied 16t mineral from 1958! Dapol bought the tools from Wrenn.

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  7. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    I think you might be right. The body moulding still holds up well in my opinion!

    Right, I did term this a micro layout - check out the run round loop! Believe it or not I can run around a single Mk 1 coach with a Type 2 loco which was always going to be the maximum loco hauled passenger train length.



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  8. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Another boring post... sorry!

    Think I've got everything mapped out as I want it. It's taken a lot of juggling to get everything where it should be despite the simplicity due to the small space.

    Mocked up using flex track:


    And a Google-earth type photo for context with the backscene:


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  9. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    I recently bought a Lima CCT secondhand in excellent condition for a very good price with the aim of adding it to my small parcels fleet.

    My original intention was to just drill out the axleboxes and fit 14mm wheels. In my sleep deprived state I accidentally drilled right through one of the axleboxes which meant Plan B was required. In hindsight that was a silly attempt because even if I'd been more careful, it would have done nothing for the ride height.

    In the end I decided to completely remove the Lima axleboxes and graft some replacement parts onto the solebars.

    I used some left over w-irons from a Parkside kit - I know they're not correct but I can live with it! Time will tell how robust they turn out to be but so far so good:


    You'll notice I also replaced the brakeshoes and brought them in line with the wheels (plastic rod not trimmed here).

    They look reasonable to me with the added bonus of improving the ride height. I won't tell anyone they're not the correct w-irons if you don't!


    I've also replaced the door grab handles with 0.33 wire and added handles to the ends - fiddly but worth the effort. I bought the SE Finecast flushglazing pack but am not totally convinced but don't know if I can be bothered cutting my own glazing.


    Thanks for looking.

  10. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    You’re not boring me, Matt, and apologies that I’m late to the party. I seemed to have overlooked your last couple of posts.

    It’s all very neat and compact, and using readily available items which I know you can turn into something special, is right up my street.........AND inspiring.

    Please keep it coming, Matt.


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  11. Lightman

    Lightman Active Member

    As they say, "Small is beautiful!" I model working dioramas/small layouts and find that you can put a lot more into a small space re detailing etc, than spreading it out over a large area. Cheers, Earl
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  12. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Thanks both for your kind comments.

    To illustrate my comments about my uncertainty with the SE Finecast flushglazing here are some pics. While they certainly look better than the original Lima glazing, I still can't decide if I like it or not.

    Note I have "opened" the two door windows to try and bring a bit of "life". I had a go at cutting my own glazing yesterday as a comparison but gave up after one piece...maybe that's my answer right there!



    And finally a shot of my small parcels fleet together. I think I may have to repaint the Southern CCT in a bluer shade!


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  13. D6356

    D6356 Active Member

    Hi Have you spotted that Railtec transfers now do windowmesh . help with windows on the CCT , hopefully anyway, lovely modelling.
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  14. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    I hadn't considered Railtec. The mesh isn't quite what I'm looking for but their CCT transfers are so thank you very much for the suggestion!

  15. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    One has now become two!


    I enjoyed my previous CCT detailing project so much that when a second became available at a good price I snapped it up!

    I'm going to replicate the work I did exactly on this one. Work on the underframe mods is about 80% complete. My original intention was to use replacement brass w-irons but, having started, I found there are so many lumps and bumps underneath the chassis that fitting them because one faff too many so I reverted to plan b (again) and used spare parts grafted onto the existing solebars.

    I've been flitting from project to project recently, much to SWMBO's annoyance. When I'm in the mood for modelling I find I do this. Sticking to one project only dims my enthusiasm. With this in mind I've started upcycling some Dapol (ex-Airfix) 35t oil tankers. Not going to do anything too drastic, just replace wheels, buffers, couplings and ladders.


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  16. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Hi all,

    Made a bit of progress today in between baby-related tasks!

    I've used various pieces of plastic rod to add some additional detail to the underframe. Representative only, I'm not hung up on the accuracy!



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  17. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Hi all,

    Some more tanker progress. Unfortunately I'm back in work now so time has become very limited.


    Brake levers have been added. These comprise parts of the kit withe the ends grafted on from some spare Parkside bits.


    Please note I've not yet sanded down the spots of Mr Surfacer used to fill some remaining marks.

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  18. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Latest progress picture. I still need to fashion some lower supports for the ladder from plastic strip. I was going to replace the walkways with something thinner but, to be honest, I couldn't be bothered!


    Still needs couplings to complete. Has it been worth the effort do you think?

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  19. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    To answer your question, Matt: Yep, IMHO of course.

    I admire your honesty in relation to the thinner walkways btw ;)


  20. matto21

    matto21 Western Thunderer

    Hi all,

    Here's my completed (but as yet unpainted - that'll have to wait) Dapol 35 ton tanker.

    Worth the effort with some plastic rod, strip and sheet plus the replacement buffers and ladders for a touch of refinement.

    I replaced the pipework (?) on the tank end because the kit part was very blobby and overscale. Lamp brackets are also plastic strip as they're cosmetic only.






    Now I have a second to do, plus I need to get some replacement transfers as the kit ones are very yellow.

    Thanks for looking.

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