7mm The Old Man's Workbench - tales of a rivet side

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
I have to admit to not going there - I just mask the tyre and apply the fibreglass brush/back of a scalpel blade to the backs of the tyre.
Which stands a good chance of removing the blackening which has been applied so carefully!

I think that I shall take a grotofaf later today, just to show what I mean about the amount of red (atually, beige) tape which is needed when there are twelve wheels :( .

Not forgetting the BLUE dots... for this is going to be a blue diseasel.
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
.... CME of Scrufts Junction jovially remarked "Lydney Shed are going to send an English Electric Tyoe 3 up to Whitecroft next week" with a bit of a smug grin. ....
I hope he has his dates right, as Lydney Shed - sub-shed to Gloucester Horton Road 85B - closed on 29th Feb 1964, well before the Western Region stopped using steam at the end of 1965, and it is well documented that Pannier 3675 ran the last train on Friday 31st Dec 1965, and Class 14 D9535 ran the first train on 3rd Jan 1966 (and failed on Fetter Hill)....;)
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
I hope he has his dates right, as Lydney Shed - sub-shed to Gloucester Horton Road 85B - closed on 29th Feb 1964....;)
Droll, very droll.

Ian and I were discussing motive power up the Forest line in general... the reference to Lydney was just me trying to make the matter more topical. Anyhow, the time period for Scrufts Junction is the Edwardian period so I shall have to borrow the BF time machine and then anything is possible :rolleyes: .

More to the point, how is Ian going to justify the hydraulic given that the posters on Knockley Gate station office are advertising day trips to exotic places... and when did the passenger service cease? Yonks before the hydraulics were built! :D

regards, Graham
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Here are a couple of the Slater's diesel wheels masked up for spraying with black etch primer (bought from e-bay after reading Adrian B's recommendation).

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The wheel on the left is showing the front face with masking tape on the tread. The wheel on the right is showing the rear face with masking tape on the tyre (where the pick-ups touch the tyre). The blue dots are self-adhesive paper stickers from Staples (other dots are available) and mask the brass insert so no problem with getting either the axle or screw to seat after painting the wheels.

regards, Graham
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
I had a telephone conversation with Ian Pope this afternoon. He says that D6300 class engines were regular visitors to the line from Lydney up into the Forest as were D7000 class engines. The reference to D6700 class is that Severn Tunnel Junction was using those engines on the branch for crew training... and, because the railway was laid on Crown Property, keeping the way-leave extant in the face of no traffic. What surprised me is that Ian says that the Severn &Wye from Lydney to Parkend was never the subject of a closure order... the line was sold by one railway company (BR) to another railway company(Dean Forest something).

What better excuse to run a noisy and smelly tin box on our layout ;) .

regards, Graham
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
I hope he has his dates right, as Lydney Shed - sub-shed to Gloucester Horton Road 85B - closed on 29th Feb 1964,
Droll, very droll.
Well I have to have something to throw at the Front of the Class Boys.... :rolleyes: :D
BTW I didn't doubt the actual use of 37s up the line... and it was a 37 (37 260 I think) that did the last ever run for BR to clear Marsh Sidings in 1976, although BR still owned the line until 1980, giving the DFR (formed in 1970 at Parkend, moving to Norchard in 1978) enough time to raise finances, hence no Closure Notice... ;)

Sorry, I can be a Dean Forest Bore as well as a Soo Line Bore...... :oops:
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Jordan,
Closure of the line would have meant that the formation would have reverted to the Crown, hence the occasional working of a crew-training loco from STJ.
regards, Graham
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
With acknowledgements to The Oyster Band (under a nom-de-noise) and Day Trip to Bangor...

"What a lovely time we had" - fixing the glazing in the cab of a JLTRT diseasel. Someone will tell me that glazing which is "laser-cut" is the bees knees.... and do those bees knees include the lip around the edge (front and back faces)? Progress is a ginormous four cab side windows and four cab door windows in two days - waiting for the paint glue to dry leaves plenty of time for contemplating the forthcoming escapade of making two mounting boards for the LEDs and resistors in each nose of the body.

Any one got sensible suggestions on how to fix the glazing other than one piece at a time?

regards, Graham
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Just for some light relief I have been fitting roof ventilators to some Gresley carriages. OK, everyone knows that the vents are two per compartment and on the centre-line.... yes? Humm - not so for Diagram 115 All-Third where the toilet compartment screen is so close to the centre line that the vent is off-centre (and is shown as such on a drawing from Mike Trice). I have decided, in the absence of any info one way or the other, to place the vent of the Diagram 114 Brake Third toilet compartment in a simlar position.

Now to the tricky bit - the third carriage running across the workbench is a Diagram 175 Brake Composite... with an end toilet which is similar to the D114, so that is fine and dandy. Diagram 175 has a toilet compartment between the first class compartments and the guard's area - and the width is the same as the adjacent compartment so the vent can be on the centre-line. Until now nothing has been said about the water filler.... which is on the centre-line for the D114 and D115 diagrams. So the D175 toilet compartment which is adjacent to the first class compartments has a vent and a filler on the centre-line... but where relative to the compartment walls? :confused:

Anyone fancy tackling the Nortth Wall of the Eiger sorry D175 on the Severn Valley with a tape measure? :)

For now the brake composite has a "Not in Use" label on the door of the toilet and all of the passengers have their legs ar peculiar angles :rolleyes: .

regards, Graham
 

Buckjumper

Flying Squad
I use glass to glaze locos and coaches, but not microscope slides, they're far too thick. Microscope slide cover slips are what you need and they come in various thicknesses - mine are all 0.13 - 0.17mm, or so sez the label on the boxes. They cut easily with a diamond pen on a piece of MDF, and with a little practice circular spectacles and radius-cornered windows come easily. I reckon my success rate is now well over 70%.

My two preferences for sticking them are impact adhesive, but you've got to master the art of twiddling the stringy bits with a cocktail stick to keep it away from the centre of the glass, or canopy glue which I've found works just as well on glass as plastic glazing (and sticks well to painted metal). The advantage with the latter is that it's easy to remove any excess that gets on the visible part by leaving it to set for 20 minutes or so, then with a cocktail stick sharpened to a chisel shape and lightly moistened with water, you can scrape it all away. One big advantage of glass is if you get the weathering spray on the glass, a thinners-moistened cotton bud will wipe it away, and if you get the action right, it looks as though it's been done by the little people.
 

alcazar

Guest
Hmmmmmm, cover slips? Nope, what i saw was microscope slides.

I think it was someone on the old RMWeb site, plus Christian Cresswell did it with a Tower Warship too.

The beauty of glass being twofold: first it hardly scratches and second, it will polish up if paint etc get on it.

And NOTHING looks like glass, like glass, IYSWIM?
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
I think the W.T. Thread might be this one - Dan Randall's Western Lancer from the early days of the Forum. The linked post is where he shows the 'windscreen wiper effect' on the windscreens. I haven't trawled through the whole thread to check, but IIRC it was microscope slide cover slips that were used, as Adrian says above, which are also glass, of course.
 

Dan Randall

Western Thunderer
I think the W.T. Thread might be this one - Dan Randall's Western Lancer from the early days of the Forum. The linked post is where he shows the 'windscreen wiper effect' on the windscreens. I haven't trawled through the whole thread to check, but IIRC it was microscope slide cover slips that were used, as Adrian says above, which are also glass, of course.

Err, it's Western Rifleman actually and the windscreens were microscope slides, approx 1mm thick. Not sure I'd use them again as it was pretty tedious getting them the right shape (diesels with rectangular windscreens would probably be easier). I did try cover slips for the side windows, but gave up after breaking too many! :(


Regards

Dan
 

Buckjumper

Flying Squad
Microscope slides seem like an awful lot of hard work to me, but kudos to Christian and Dan for doing so. Glass cover slips really are a doddle once you get the technique; think of cutting tiles - score and snap. Once scored I hold the glass in some flat-nosed pliers and bend - bingo. On a good day disks can just pop out with little cleaning up, and radiused corners in one go, at other times you have to nibble away at them to get the right shape.
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
An interesting time was had last night at the sparsely attended WT-Winchester meeting. I took along some bits of the NQLTRT Gresley carriages to discuss with Rob Pulham as he has the same kits in his cupboard. One change which is being made to our carriages is the provision of lighting in the compartments - using the American method of pick-up from the bogies to provide power to the DCC decoder which hides in the toilet compartment. Rob looked at the progress to date and suggested that I obtain a DCC-keep-alive module for th decoder / lights - from DCC Concepts down-under. Familiar product, familiar name, familiar place - ah, yes - a similar suggestion from Adrian B some months (years) back.

Just need to find Adrian's message for the contents included a web-site address.

Progress of the illuminations will depend upon experiments to decide how many LEDs (and of what colour) to mount in the roof of the carriage - and finding a suitable connector to join the roof wiring to the decoder.

regards, Graham
 
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