The train shed: Liverpool (Cheapside) G.W.R.
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jonte
Western Thunderer
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
It's really looking good Jonte 
jonte
Western Thunderer
Hi Simon.
Thanks for dropping by and pleased it meets with your approval.
Cheers for now,
Jonte
jonte
Western Thunderer
It's really looking good Jonte
Most kind of you to say so, Dave. Thank you.
Jonte
jonte
Western Thunderer
Good morning fellow Westerners.
I’m pleased to report that the front fascias are now attached:
The insides:
And an overall cropped shot:
The rear exterior won’t be dressed as the intention was always to have it nestled into the out-of-view, furthest reaches of an intended layout. The added bonus is that it can also be reinforced with bits of card to give the roof greater purchase and thus make the whole thing a lot more rigid. At least that’s the idea. Watch this space.
Attention will now turn to fixing the interior sides of the front fascias and what will be the front side of the rear exteriors, if that makes sense? However, first I want to subject them to a tad more dressing as they’ve become a little too washed out. This was intended as a dark surface would be totally lost in the intended gloom, but the result was just a little too uniform - again, if that makes sense.
Despite kind words of support, I’ll leave posting up the next bit as it’s really just more of the same, so if you’ll permit, I’ll get back to you when I’m ready to put the roof in place.
Cheers for now,
Jonte
I’m pleased to report that the front fascias are now attached:
The insides:
And an overall cropped shot:
The rear exterior won’t be dressed as the intention was always to have it nestled into the out-of-view, furthest reaches of an intended layout. The added bonus is that it can also be reinforced with bits of card to give the roof greater purchase and thus make the whole thing a lot more rigid. At least that’s the idea. Watch this space.
Attention will now turn to fixing the interior sides of the front fascias and what will be the front side of the rear exteriors, if that makes sense? However, first I want to subject them to a tad more dressing as they’ve become a little too washed out. This was intended as a dark surface would be totally lost in the intended gloom, but the result was just a little too uniform - again, if that makes sense.
Despite kind words of support, I’ll leave posting up the next bit as it’s really just more of the same, so if you’ll permit, I’ll get back to you when I’m ready to put the roof in place.
Cheers for now,
Jonte
jonte
Western Thunderer
Hi
Now, I know I wrote that I wasn’t going to post again until the roof went on, but just thought I’d share a picture of the interior fascias being attached for continuity. Please forgive my indulgences fellow Westerners:
Note the light wood supports to the rear of the bargeboards to which the roof endings will be glued in order to reinforce this rather lightweight structure. Therein lies a tale; I’ll spare you all that one for another day my friends. Let me just say that the meds are helping
Jonte
Now, I know I wrote that I wasn’t going to post again until the roof went on, but just thought I’d share a picture of the interior fascias being attached for continuity. Please forgive my indulgences fellow Westerners:
Note the light wood supports to the rear of the bargeboards to which the roof endings will be glued in order to reinforce this rather lightweight structure. Therein lies a tale; I’ll spare you all that one for another day my friends. Let me just say that the meds are helping
Jonte
Lyndhurstman
Western Thunderer
Hi
Now, I know I wrote that I wasn’t going to post again until the roof went on, but just thought I’d share a picture of the interior fascias being attached for continuity. Please forgive my indulgences fellow Westerners:
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Note the light wood supports to the rear of the bargeboards to which the roof endings will be glued in order to reinforce this rather lightweight structure. Therein lies a tale; I’ll spare you all that one for another day my friends. Let me just say that the meds are helping
Jonte
There's nothing Mere about your skill, Jonte
Fabulous. Cheers
Jan
jonte
Western Thunderer
There's nothing Mere about your skill, Jonte
Cheers
Jan
You’re too kind, Jan. Thank you.
I could do with a brain cell or two more though, or even a longer attention span. Guess who forgot to factor in the height of the raised beams when measuring out those pesky bargeboards?
So it’s back to making new ones that actually cover the edges of the roof........at least I’ll get another go at imitating peeling paint
Bestest,
Jonte.
I’ve just realised, Jan: you’ve lifted that from the headline on the local paper covering the table. Very deft, Sir. I would’t expect anything less. Told you I was slow
Jonte.
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jonte
Western Thunderer
Again for continuity, fellow Westerners, a photo of the rear interiors being attached:
And then I started to put the lid on:
This thing is stronger than I thought. The left hand roof as you look, was a real wrestling match to attach to the supplementary pieces at the rear, and I think I may need to revisit it later.
The supplementary pieces were required because soft ollies here forgot to allow for the raised beams when measuring his barge boards and for the fixing points at the rear. And yes folks, new bargeboards will be required.
My woes continued when I ran out of epoxy and went to the local model shop where I purchased at a premium price, a replacement. What I thought was slow setting stuff (30 minutes before hardening) was actually set-in-30-minutes...
Consequently, I had to change my method for attaching the rooves, and I shall have to go back and glue the longitudinal beams individually now that the glue to the front and rear has set. Well, maybe tomorrow now after all that grappling, the roof winning by three submissions and a fall.
Frustrating and wearing this train set stuff at times.
Jonte
And then I started to put the lid on:
This thing is stronger than I thought. The left hand roof as you look, was a real wrestling match to attach to the supplementary pieces at the rear, and I think I may need to revisit it later.
The supplementary pieces were required because soft ollies here forgot to allow for the raised beams when measuring his barge boards and for the fixing points at the rear. And yes folks, new bargeboards will be required.
My woes continued when I ran out of epoxy and went to the local model shop where I purchased at a premium price, a replacement. What I thought was slow setting stuff (30 minutes before hardening) was actually set-in-30-minutes...
Consequently, I had to change my method for attaching the rooves, and I shall have to go back and glue the longitudinal beams individually now that the glue to the front and rear has set. Well, maybe tomorrow now after all that grappling, the roof winning by three submissions and a fall.
Frustrating and wearing this train set stuff at times.
Jonte
jonte
Western Thunderer
Good morning fellow Westerners.
Well, work on roof-fitting continues in earnest and I’m pleased to report- if only for the sake of my own sanity - that I’m nearly there:
The left hand roof as you look still requires bonding at the rear, before revisiting the internal beams along its whole to add a blob of glue here and there to prevent any future warping of the card.
Btw, I discovered the cause of my battle with the main roof to which I alluded in my last post. Turned out that the additional fillets of wood fitted to match the height of the raised beams were a tad too ‘high’, with a not too noticeable result (I hope) of the roof being proud of the beams fore and aft.....time will tell when I eventually photograph the inside, as cameras seem to scrutinise everything. Lesson learned, the other roof formers have been left short of the bargeboards and butt joint the inside ends of the fillets (copious amounts of epoxy ensure a secure bond which will thankfully be hidden when I fabricate the new and wider bargeboards.
The outside roof sections on each of the smaller rooves proved also a test of my patience, especially in this heat. In retrospect, as I’ve done with much of this ramshackle build, I should have made a jig to assist in their placement - that or construct a vacuum to switch off gravity. The problem is that the ski slope roof sections provided little friction to keep the heavy card roof pieces in place (the inner rooves are fine as they rest against the main roof on each side) and off they went Klammer-like until the table top stopped their fall. I tried to remedy this with card buffers fixed to the table with masking tape, but the temperature in the room soon lifted the tape. While this situation wasn’t ideal, it least it held it in place until the glue dried and, most importantly, it kept the interior roof cladding (approximately) at right angles to the ‘A’ beams; well mostly.
Now, not only are the edges slightly proud of the roof base but also extend beyond the bargeboards, but hey, lame excuses apart, I’m more concerned with the interior atmosphere rendered by the build than what the exterior looks like (the card is way too thick IMHO which has dwarfed my humble finials, but as the roof will have to be removable, rigidity was the always the compromise. I suppose you can’t have it all Westerners, not if you’ve no idea like me).
Anyway, nothing but my pride was hurt in this foolhardy venture and the world still turns Westerners, so here’s another shot to show you what I mean:
And finally, me trying to be arty by comparing a ‘before’ and ‘after’ shot with a view inside ......through the trapezium shaped window, Westerners:
Hmmm....think I’ll stick to gluing stuff together (shaln’t go so far as to call it modelling).
Jonte
Well, work on roof-fitting continues in earnest and I’m pleased to report- if only for the sake of my own sanity - that I’m nearly there:
The left hand roof as you look still requires bonding at the rear, before revisiting the internal beams along its whole to add a blob of glue here and there to prevent any future warping of the card.
Btw, I discovered the cause of my battle with the main roof to which I alluded in my last post. Turned out that the additional fillets of wood fitted to match the height of the raised beams were a tad too ‘high’, with a not too noticeable result (I hope) of the roof being proud of the beams fore and aft.....time will tell when I eventually photograph the inside, as cameras seem to scrutinise everything. Lesson learned, the other roof formers have been left short of the bargeboards and butt joint the inside ends of the fillets (copious amounts of epoxy ensure a secure bond which will thankfully be hidden when I fabricate the new and wider bargeboards.
The outside roof sections on each of the smaller rooves proved also a test of my patience, especially in this heat. In retrospect, as I’ve done with much of this ramshackle build, I should have made a jig to assist in their placement - that or construct a vacuum to switch off gravity. The problem is that the ski slope roof sections provided little friction to keep the heavy card roof pieces in place (the inner rooves are fine as they rest against the main roof on each side) and off they went Klammer-like until the table top stopped their fall. I tried to remedy this with card buffers fixed to the table with masking tape, but the temperature in the room soon lifted the tape. While this situation wasn’t ideal, it least it held it in place until the glue dried and, most importantly, it kept the interior roof cladding (approximately) at right angles to the ‘A’ beams; well mostly.
Now, not only are the edges slightly proud of the roof base but also extend beyond the bargeboards, but hey, lame excuses apart, I’m more concerned with the interior atmosphere rendered by the build than what the exterior looks like (the card is way too thick IMHO which has dwarfed my humble finials, but as the roof will have to be removable, rigidity was the always the compromise. I suppose you can’t have it all Westerners, not if you’ve no idea like me).
Anyway, nothing but my pride was hurt in this foolhardy venture and the world still turns Westerners, so here’s another shot to show you what I mean:
And finally, me trying to be arty by comparing a ‘before’ and ‘after’ shot with a view inside ......through the trapezium shaped window, Westerners:
Hmmm....think I’ll stick to gluing stuff together (shaln’t go so far as to call it modelling).
Jonte
Lyndhurstman
Western Thunderer
I wouldn't call it modelling, either. I'd call it Art. And Artistry. Of the highest order.
Cheers
Jan
jonte
Western Thunderer
Just a personal note that I feel it is a shame that all the fine detail work of the foof beams are now hidden away under the roof. In the words of Pendon Museum (re all the detail inside the buildings - which you can't see) "At least we know that it is there!" Great modelling. Cheers, Earl
Lyndhurstman
Western Thunderer
Thanks, Chum; here's hoping!
Currently, the dimension of my reward will consist of the view of clear blue skies, which will be achieved after getting out of the morose miasma that are the wiper pickups on the Gibson J15. I keep telling myself to go split axle, but - along with others - I seemingly never listen to what I'm saying
Cheers
Jan
