Trumpeter 1:35 scale DRG Baureihe 86 display model.

P A D

Western Thunderer
Thanks David.

The 86 is moving through the paint shop now. The side tanks, cab rear/bunker, cab sides and roof have all received a primer coat and are ready for spraying black. However, I've been concentrating on the chassis and all the wheels have now had the treads painted steel using Humbrol Metalcote. As well as that the parts that need to be black have received their first brush coat.
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As well as the buffer heads and footsteps, the smokebox saddle and front platform are also black.
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Some touching up of the red was also done with the brush and most of the rods and valve gear parts have been painted steel.
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The right hand coupling rods have also received a couple of coats of red in the fluting, but will need at least one more.
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I opted to brush paint the tyre treads rather than mask up and spray. The rods were also brush painted and polished with a circular brush in the mini drill, running at the slowest speed and only applying the lightest of pressure. The wheels and trucks were just quickly push fitted for the photo, but I think I'm now at the stage where they may be glued in place. I note that the lower front step etched overlay has been knock off, but luckily a quick scan of the garage floor located it.
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Cheers,
Peter
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
I've been slowly working to get the valve gear all painted ready for fitting. Hopefully I'll get the cylinders painted today and then I can complete the chassis.
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The return cranks looked a bit spindly compared to photos of the preserved locos, although they look correct for the locos as originally built, going by the drawing I have. I wanted the later more beefy variety so I knocked them up from 30 thou plastic card. The eccentric rods were missing the oil reservoirs at the big ends so I added these also.

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Here's the return cranks after painting and polishing. The Morrisons finger nail buffers are good for this.
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Apart from the boiler, all the other major parts are now primed ready for the top coat. The valve rod and slide bars have been painted with Metalcote and will be masked off when I black up the cylinders. I still need to slide out the valve rod to paint the inner ends.
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The fire iron racks on the water tanks were added to complete them and then they were primed.
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I believe the roof lining was bare wood originally but post war was painted grey as was the cab inside from the bottom of the window line upwards.
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Thr bunker is also ready for blacking up.
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Cheers,
Peter
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
The chassis is now painted and the wheels, valve gear and cylinders permanently attached. The steam heating pipe and stowage hook have also been added, along with the operating rod to the cylinder drain cocks. Some touching up is in order and the the finish is not up to what Warren Haywood can do, but I'm pleased with the results so far. The steam heat pipes are casting from Dingler and although for Spur 1 and slightly large, they look OK.20200609_220229.jpg

The rear buffer beam.
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The left hand valve gear.
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And the right hand side. I've set the left hand side in forward gear and this side in reverse just for some variation. Although the wheel cranks could have been set in any position, I've set them at 90 degrees with the right leading the left. I assume that is correct for German locomotives, but if not you can't see both sides at the samd time.
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Here the link to the drain cocks can be seen. I've still to add the rod back to the cab along with the reversing shaft.
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The finish on the front platform is a it gritty, but it will be mostly obscured by the steps below the smokebox.
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Cheers,
Peter
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
No progress on the 86 due to a disaster painting the tanks etc. As an expedient I decided to use a rattle can from Halfords for the black paintwork which worked fine on the cylinders. However, either due to over application or it containing a more aggressive solvent than the primer, the paint seems to have attacked the plastic giving sandpaper effect in some places.:rant::rant::rant::rant::rant::rant:
If this had been a metal model it would have gone for a swim in Celly thinners, but it's not so it can't swim. Therefore the only way to smooth the finish was to rub it down. I found that a combination of fine Garriflex and scratch brush did the job. The scratch brush was used with the glass fibres extended about 1/2 an inch so was less abrasive and allowed me to get into areas where I couldn't use the Garriflex. After doing the tanks I then airbrushed one of them using Tamiya X1 gloss black and it looks OK. The Tamiya paint and thinners containing much milder water miscible solvents so does not attack the plastic. This is not the best of images but shows lower tank after rubbing down and upper one after repeating.
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This is the bunker rear after rubbing down.
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Fortunately, the boiler with its myriad of pipework was not sprayed with the rattle can as that would have been impossible to rub down. That will be sprayed up with the Tamiya paint only, which is what I should have done with the other parts. For now the mojo has disappeared and it's a much more attractive proposition to go mountain biking with my 16 year old daughter, so it might be a while before the next post. It's been over 20 years since I did any serious cycling but I'm slowly getting fitter. Living on the NW edge of Leeds we have easy access to some excellent woodland areas with lots of trails and down hill sections to get the adrenaline going.

Cheers,
Peter
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
For now the mojo has disappeared and it's a much more attractive proposition to go mountain biking with my 16 year old daughter, so it might be a while before the next post. It's been over 20 years since I did any serious cycling but I'm slowly getting fitter. Living on the NW edge of Leeds we have easy access to some excellent woodland areas with lots of trails and down hill sections to get the adrenaline going.

Going to follow some of the Tour de Yorkshire routes around the Cow and Calf or Côte de Otley Chevin?
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
Going to follow some of the Tour de Yorkshire routes around the Cow and Calf or Côte de Otley Chevin?

Although the Chevin is very close to my home I have no plans to watch the race. My daughter and I watched the Tour de France at the iron bridge near Ben Rhydding a few years back and although we enjoyed it and I used to road race when I was in my 30s, I don't really see cycle racing as a spectator sport. As Steph says, Côte de Otley Chevin? Class!

My daughter and I rode up the Chevin a couple of weeks back and at 66 years old (me not my daughter) it's bloody hard even on a mountain bike! If there's any elite mountain bikers on here that don't know it, the trails in the Stainburn forest half way up Norwood Edge are well worth a visit. My daughter and I took the bikes over this morning and had a go on the red (difficult) trail. It was way beyond our abilities, so we had to walk some of the more difficult sections, but you don't know till you try. The black trail is even more extreme so we gave that a miss. This evening it was the trails through Esholt Woods so after 2 rides today, I'm knackered and ready for bed.

You can tell the mojo's gone, as there has been no mention of the German smoky steamy thing with red wheels and cocked up black paintwork. :'(

Cheers,
Peter
 

Dave Holt

Western Thunderer
Sorry to hear your modelling motivation has deserted you. I hope it comes back soon for the selfish reason that I really enjoy reading about your progress. It looks to me as if you have overcome the crinkly paint problem, at least on the tanks.
Your cycling adventures sound far too strenuous to me, but you appear to be enjoying the challenges, so good luck with it.
Dave.
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
Hi Dave,
Many thanks.

I'm sure the mojo will return and I'll get 86 finished. For now I'm enjoying punishing myself on the bike after a 25 year break. I'll never be as fit as I was when I was 40, or become a propper mountain biker, but that's not the objective. I'm not sure about my daughter though. She's very keen and can already do some of the more technical stuff. Yesterday's rides were quite hard and she doesn't want to go out today, so I may take the opportunity to work on the 86.
Cheers,
Peter
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
It's been a while since my last post but things have been slowly moving forward on the painting of the 86, despite spending lots of time cycling with my daughter. After much rubbing down and over spraying the black areas with Tamiya semi gloss black, I've now got an acceptable finish. With the main areas sprayed black my attention turned to picking out the various details with the brush. Inside the cab the upper half of the panels have been painted a light grey using one of the Humbrol enamels. I don't know the RAL reference number but I'm not too fussed about it being spot on. The five dials on the right are from the Eduard etched set with the three to the right being hand painted on white plasticard. Not brilliant I know, but they will be mostly obscured inside the enclosed cab so I hope they will pass muster.
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Here's the rear cab panel. The scraped area is where the rear of the floor will be glued. I've scraped the paint of all surfaces that will be glued so some touching up will be required later.
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This is the rear of the bunker. Some tidying up is still required.
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Here we have the inner faces of the cab sides.
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And the inside of the cab roof plus other bits and pieces.
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Here's the tanks after re-spraying. Again, contact areas for gluing have been a scraped free of paint.
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Here's the boiler.
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And from t'other side.
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Weathering of the chassis has begun but further dry brushing is needed.
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The masking tape covers an area scraped for gluing.
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And finally a close up of the front end. I'm about ready to fix the boiler and will then be able to add the sand pipes. Despite my reservations about using the "silicone rubber" like parts from the kit, I'm decided to give them a go to save work.
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Cheers,
Peter
 

Genghis

Western Thunderer
Blubberhouses: brings back student memories from my time at Leeds. Visits to Otley for Taylors (Timothy's Landlord) and Naylors (Special, chips, pot of tea, bread and butter) were only surpassed by the longer trip to a freehouse in Blubberhouses that sold Old Peculier on draft. It was best not to be the designated driver.............

Sorry for the hijack.

PS you don't look old enough to be the same age as me. :)
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
Côte de Blubberhouses is real class!
Nick

:thumbs: If we put our minds to it I'm sure the list is endless. No don't!

Blubberhouses: brings back student memories from my time at Leeds. Visits to Otley for Taylors (Timothy's Landlord) and Naylors (Special, chips, pot of tea, bread and butter) were only surpassed by the longer trip to a freehouse in Blubberhouses that sold Old Peculier on draft. It was best not to be the designated driver.............

Sorry for the hijack.

PS you don't look old enough to be the same age as me. :)

No worries David. Looks like 1954 was a good year. It sounds like our paths may have crossed if you were in Leeds in your early 20s. Back then the pubs round here only sold either Tetley's or Websters, both pi$$ weak and tasted like dishwater. When CAMRA kicked off searching for decent hand pulled ale was a priority and Taylor's Landlord was a brew that we sought out. As you say bad news for the designated driver when Taylor's was on the menu. The Cat I'th Well at Wainstalls, in the hills above Halifax was a good pub for Taylor's and if you were a single malt scotch drinker, the owner kept a very large selection. I recall waiting for my order at the bar and the bloke next to me asked for a Bells. The landlord was nearly apoplectic that a customer would ask for Bells with 20 or 30 single malts to choose from. Bloody hell, I'm hijacking my own thread now!

Cheers,
Peter
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
Remember, Peter, "A Double Diamond work wonders". :)) Like hell it does. Bleuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! According to Wiki "It was one of the highest selling beers in the United Kingdom in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s" That's because there was pretty well bu$$er all else available! Ind Coope have a lot to answer for. So do Watneys for "Red Barrel".

Actually it was, as you say, CAMRA that brought us out of the dark ages as far as the ale was concerned. God bless 'em.

Actually we were lucky, living in Hertfordshire, where we had a very few what would now be called micro breweries. The Alford Arms in Ashridge Forest brewed their own by name "Hop Pickers", "Pickled Squirrel" and "Rudolph's Revenge". You can work out for yourself the comparative strengths.

So another hijack, but you have only yourself to blame.

Brian
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
Now there's a couple of blasts from the past, Double Diamond and Red Barrel. If nothing else, proof that the good old days weren't that good at all. More like gone are the days, thank god.
 

Genghis

Western Thunderer
I was in Leeds from 72 to 78. Tried a pint of keg Tetleys first weekend and swore never again. Then three years later, on a tour of non-student pubs in Hunslet, I discovered draft Tetley real ale, and realised the last three years had been a wasted opportunity. The long time in Leeds, and working on the Middleton railway, cemented my interest in trains. At that time the University Railway Society was still working the freight on the Middleton Railway. There was still industrial steam but of course nothing main line, so we had to go to places like Germany, where if you looked hard enough, there were still 86's working.............. (so back on track):)
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
Yes hand pulled Tetley's bitter could be good depending on how well it was looked after, but in the main it was more likely to be naff than good. At the Sun in Stanningley it was always excellent, but 100 yards up the road in the Thornhill Arms, it was awful. Keg Tetley's was poison.
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
So, as David says back on track.
I finally got the boiler glued to the chassis, so the cab sides could added. Here's a view looking into the cab from the rear.
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And a view from above with the cab rear/bunker placed for the photo. It's looking quite business like in there now.
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The sandpipes as expected are not easy to glue even with cyano, but it does hold in the end. Fortunately being a display model it won't be handled much so the less than perfect adhesion to the pipes should not be a problem. Here's the forward set on the left side after fixing. To keep them aligned with the tyres, I've glued the ends in place.

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After getting the rear set in place, I was then able to add the right hand tank. The forward cab handrails have also been fitted but are yet to be painted. I'll do that before adding the cab rear/bunker.
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Here the bunker and roof have been placed for the photo. The roof is not the best of fits so will require some extra work to get it acceptable.
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And a view of the bunker rear. The tool boxes underneath and the lower part of the ladders have yet to be weathered.
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The front end still looks a bit bare without the tanks and small upper platforms.
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Here you can see the control rod from the cab to the cylinder drain cocks. I've since added a short length of copper wire to the reversing shaft to represent the reversing rod to the cab. As it dissapears behind the tank and does not need any support at the rear, there was no need to run it back to the cab.

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A similar view of the left hand side before the tank was added.
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Cheers,
Peter
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
The addition of the sandpipes is now completed. I'm glad I went with the "rubber" pipes as making and fitting from copper wire would have been an absolute pig with the wheels on. You can see the reversing rod on the reversing shaft crank in this view. As mentioned in the last post, I haven't bothered running it back to the cab as it is hidden behind the tank.
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With the tank in place there's only about a quarter of an inch or so of the reversing shaft visible. Looking at Dikitriki's recent post showing some German prototypes on his garden railway has reminded me that I need to add the safety link for the connecting rods that hangs from the slide bars. Some weathering of the upper works is also needed.
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Here's a full on view of the right hand side. The bunker is now glued in place along with the cab doors. There's a handrail still to be added next to the front lookout visors and a couple of cinder guards either side of the rear side window. The handwheel and shaft to the boiler drain valve above the leading driving wheel have also been fitted, along with the small upper platforms either side of the smokebox door. The apparent scuff on the tank side is just dust that I didn't notice when I took the photo.20200705_191106.jpg
And a left hand broadside. On this side I've set the valve gear for forward running while the right hand side is set in reverse. Not possible in reality I know, but on a static display model it makes more interesting.
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Here's a few more gratuitous views.
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With the tanks and upper platforms in place the front end now looks like an 86. I have a selection of numbers from the Aliance Models Works aftermarket set, so I must decide which one to use. As I mentioned previously, it will be a Deutsche Reichsbahn loco as running in the 1950s in the GDR, but will not be 100% accurate. The AMW set also has etched plates for the DR and a stencil for spraying the loco information and BW (MPD in English).
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The Eduard set has some nice electrification warning signs but I need to check when they would have been introduced on the DR in East Germany. I suspect, not until the 1960s or later.
Cheers,
Peter
 
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