Syphon G Bogies?

[Phill Dyson]

Hi,



My question is, did any Syphon G's survive into the blue era still running on these GWR American? bogies.......







Many Thanks



Phill

 

[Len Cattley]

Hi Phill, where did you get your Syphon G's?

Len

 

[djparkins]

Hi,



My question is, did any Syphon G's survive into the blue era still running on these GWR American? bogies.......







Many Thanks



Phill

Phill -

At the risk of being called a 'rivet counter' [!!!] I don't think so - though I hope someone will come along with a contradictory photo in order to save you work!

If either did it would more likey be the Diag. O.33 vehicle.

DJP

 

[AJC]

Paul Bartlett has one (and one only) but it seems this would be an extreme rarity:

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrsiphon/h37949112#h37949112

All the others on Paul's pages show more 'conventional' types (though I'm not quite certain what they are) of a couple of different wheelbases.

Adam

 

[Dog Star]

I travelled by train from Reading in the 1970s, either to Bristol or to London, and noted the Siphon Gs in use for newspaper traffic. I did not see any inside framed Siphon with American bogies, most had the 9'0" Collet style plate frame bogie. There was one outside frame Siphon G on American bogies at that time, this is the vehicle which went to the Severn Valley when withdrawn.

[I made a mistake with the original post and wrote "inside" when I meant "outside" for the preserved vehicle - now corrected]

 

[Phill Dyson]

Thank you all for your help & advice......very much appreciated

So it would seem that the vast majority were running on these then ?....

There was one inside frame Siphon G on American bogies at that time, this is the vehicle which went to the Severn Valley when withdrawn.

I am intrigued by the one that went to the SVR with American bogies though, would that have been a Diagram 0.33 ? ..........anymore info on this vehicle please ?

Phill

 

[Phill Dyson]

Hi Phill, where did you get your Syphon G's?

Len

The front one is a David Parkin etch kit I think, I got it S/H & repainted it & modified the roof. the other one started life as an outside framed Ian Kirk kit...which I bodged into an inside framed example...although I think I should have made the ends vertical planked too

Phill

 

[Dog Star]

So it would seem that the vast majority were running on these then ?....
View attachment 46097

Or like these http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrsiphon/h37949112#h7026d79

I am intrigued by the one that went to the SVR with American bogies though, would that have been a Diagram 0.33 ?

The outside frame Siphon G is to Diagram O11... for which there is one body style and three different styles of underframe... and probably three or four types of bogie. One lot was fitted with vacuum and westinghouse brake.

The SVR example is here.

 

[Phill Dyson]

I travelled by train from Reading in the 1970s, either to Bristol or to London, and noted the Siphon Gs in use for newspaper traffic. I did not see any inside framed Siphon with American bogies, most had the 9'0" Collet style plate frame bogie. There was one inside frame Siphon G on American bogies at that time, this is the vehicle which went to the Severn Valley when withdrawn.

The outside frame Siphon G is to Diagram O11... for which there is one body style and three different styles of underframe... and probably three or four types of bogie. One lot was fitted with vacuum and westinghouse brake.

The SVR example is here.

I'm confuse now DS, was there a Inside Framed/American bogie example which went to the SVR?

Phill

 

[Dog Star]

I'm confuse now DS, was there a Inside Framed/American bogie example which went to the SVR?

Phill

My sincere apologies, I made a mistake with the original post and wrote inside when I meant to write outside.

The most likely source of an answer to your question, other than a photo, is the HMRS book on Siphons in which there is information about the types of bogies fitted to the different Diagrams. In some cases the book records details of bogie changes.

 

[djparkins]

My sincere apologies, I made a mistake with the original post and wrote inside when I meant to write outside.

The most likely source of an answer to your question, other than a photo, is the HMRS book on Siphons in which there is information about the types of bogies fitted to the different Diagrams. In some cases the book records details of bogie changes.

But to keep things simple -

If you fit 9ft Pressed Steel Heavy Duty Bogies your vehicles WILL be correct!

 

[Phill Dyson]

Someone mentioned there being one withdrawn in the early 70's listed in the HMRS Syphon book.....but I wonder if this was the SVR outside framed one?

Is my bogie in the pic a pressed steel heavy duty one?

Phill

 

[Dog Star]

Is my bogie in the pic a pressed steel heavy duty one?

The bogie in your earlier photo does feature in the majority of the vehicles on the Paul Bartlett website.

 

[Phill Dyson]

Thanks again, I will get another set of those GWR 9' ones from Shawn at Telford & put them both on those bogies