1/32 TME King Arthur

Thirtysecond

Western Thunderer
The working drains are now being installed. The cylinder drain valves and the operational drain pipes ( 50 of which I sprayed on Thursday last) are being hidden behind the dummy (scale) Copper pipes. You can just see them poking out if you look hard!

(NB. A cleat to secure the pipes to the front step (dummy on outside and working inside) has yet to be added and the cylinder cover has got to be panelled and lined out.)

This is a pristine, ex-works example which many of our customers demand. Needless to say I shall be weathering mine! I find that Humbrol "antique bronze", No 171, gives an excellent representation of Copper tarnished by weather and heat.

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Simon

Flying Squad
That is absolutely exquisite - a joy to behold. The finished locomotives really are going to be something to see.

Thank you very much indeed for sharing the ongoing progress.

Simon
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
Sorry to say that the shaping of those cylinder drain pipes is not prototypical.

30771.  Eastleigh Works Yard.  5 April 1961. - Copy.jpg

Note not only the artistic bends but also the cleat hanging on to fresh air between the bends at the base of the cylinder and the step.

:D

Actually, I jest. That is one of the most stunning models I have seen in 1/32 or any other scale. I wish I could get the bank balance to stretch...... May be HP over the next twenty years? (At 70 years of age I could make that work!) Or perhaps I'll sell the car.

I could not agree more with Simon. We are privileged to see this build as it progresses.

BTW, loco is 30771, Sir Sagramore, at Eastleigh Works Yard on 5th April 1961.

Brian
 

Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
Watching with great interest as I shall be starting (MOK kit, Slaters wheels & Maxon motor/ABC gearbox) the mid 1950's pride of 73C Hither Green 30772 Sir Percivale early-ish in the New Year.

regards

Mike
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
My only photo of a King Arthur is the one above of Sir Sagramore. You are welcome to use it as a reference if of assistance. The full pic appears on WT "Prototype - Some of my Pictures" post #14.

Brian
 

Thirtysecond

Western Thunderer
Note not only the artistic bends but also the cleat hanging on to fresh air between the bends at the base of the cylinder and the step.

Brian

The Southern seemed to prefer taking the drain pipes to the front of the front steps, presumably to minimise the effect on forward visibility. The downside was that loco crew obviously used the cylinder drain pipes as steps and they ended up rather bent!
 

Simon

Flying Squad
My only photo of a King Arthur is the one above of Sir Sagramore. You are welcome to use it as a reference if of assistance. The full pic appears on WT "Prototype - Some of my Pictures" post #14.

Brian
And also including a most excellent detail view of one of those funky "outside rail" buffer stops for those of us afflicted with an interest in such things!

Simon
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
Amazing...... Within an hour of posting my bit about the pipes on Sir Sagramore I've received an advert for stair lifts. The bots must have picked up the mention of my age already. I must learn to keep personal info to myself. I must learn to keep...... I wonder how long it'll be before the phone calls start trying to sell me shares in a gold mine in the Bahamas?

B
 

Thirtysecond

Western Thunderer
My only photo of a King Arthur is the one above of Sir Sagramore. You are welcome to use it as a reference if of assistance. The full pic appears on WT "Prototype - Some of my Pictures" post #14.

Brian
Have tried searching for "Prototype - Some of my pictures" but the WT search engine keeps telling me it doesn't exist. Could you give me a step by step to the thread and post please.

Derek
 

Thirtysecond

Western Thunderer

Thanks Steph. Useful ref shot.

For anybody building King Arthurs, the two must-have books are:

  • The Book of the King Arthurs, by Richard Derry which includes 2 or more photos of every single member of the class (Amazon £26.95), and
  • Locomotives in Detail - King Arthur Class, by Peter Swift (Amazon £6.90 used)

Both invaluable reference books.
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Derek,

I picked up a copy of the 'Locomotives in detail' for a few pence through Abebooks a month or so ago; there were a load on there under £1...! The postage cost was a few times the value of the book.

Steph
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
And also including a most excellent detail view of one of those funky "outside rail" buffer stops for those of us afflicted with an interest in such things!

Simon
And here's another, Simon. Exactly the same spot but four years later.

92153.  Eastleigh Works Yard.  23 May 1965..jpg

Original photo is of 92153 on 23rd May 1965.

Brian
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Note not only the artistic bends but also the cleat hanging on to fresh air between the bends at the base of the cylinder and the step.

Brian

Brian, the first pipe clip is always left suspended, it's simply there to group the pipes not support them and that applies to virtually all UK engines with extended pipes. On the A4 when they cut the pipes back after the frame guard irons were removed there were often two pipe clips and both in free space, the result was often sagging drain pipes. On BR classes they are often cut right back and mere stubs protrude from the drain cock.

MD
 

Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
Thanks Steph. Useful ref shot.

For anybody building King Arthurs, the two must-have books are:

  • The Book of the King Arthurs, by Richard Derry which includes 2 or more photos of every single member of the class (Amazon £26.95), and
  • Locomotives in Detail - King Arthur Class, by Peter Swift (Amazon £6.90 used)

Both invaluable reference books.

I have both of these and have just bought "Southern Urie & Maunsell 2 - cylinder 4-6-0s" by David MaidmentISBN 1473852536 published by Pen & Sword, which has more info and photos and is a good compliment to the other two.

regards

Mike
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Two more for the King Arthur stack:

D L Bradley Locomotives of the LSWR, the Urie classes. (Also covers the Maunsell locos) (Wild Swan)
O S Nock the Southern King Arthur Family (David and Charles)

Steph
 

Thirtysecond

Western Thunderer
The tenders are all finished apart from transfers and plates (for some S.R. versions). Here are a trio of views.

The cab end shot of one of the Urie tenders shows the unique (I believe) coupling which automatically connects the water (l.p. and h.p.) and the meths supply when connecting loco to tender. A cam arrangement beneath the cab floor and operated by a special tool, locks the coupling parts and provides the compression for the water and meths seals. (We have now sourced BLACK Silicon tube so the green tubes will be replaced.) Thinks: a few scuffs on that one which will have to be "sorted" before handing to customer.

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At the other end of the tender is another unique (I think) feature. The screw link couplings are cast in Silver. Why you might ask!

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In Chris's opinion, unpolished solid Silver is the nearest you can get to polished Steel. Pity, I'll be painting mine filthy, greasy black!!
 
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