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Simon

Flying Squad
Blimey, less pontificating and more modelling required here I think!!

Keep going and that could become the 04 with he most owners ever;)
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Hear hear Brian......but I do like the blue 04 and David's small layout looks very interesting. See the US bug never goes away either!

My 03 is still in its box....just need to get the courage to try out some rail sections I have to see what is plausible.

All the best

Julian
 

Brian T

Western Thunderer
Well the 04 is going to a new home soon,so that`s my breif flirtation with G1 done.
See you all back on the 'dark side'....P48 is calling again...!! :bowdown:

Brian.

PS; Jullian, here`s to seeing you succed where i have failed ...again!.
 

David Halfpenny

Western Thunderer
Here's what you're missing, Brian T ;)

This is a short clip of engine start-up at a model engineering society Gauge One running day.
A large proportion of the audience had never seen a 1:32 train before, and some of them were rather bemused by the whole idea. Even so, I got an invitation to run on a big layout at a big exhibition Oop North.
 

Brian T

Western Thunderer
I still like the idea of an indoor 1:32 shunting layout,but i have too much unfinished bussiness in P48.
Namley this little gem, a 'Sunset' Union Pacific USRA switcher which i had converted to P48 a while ago by a gentleman in Kentucky.
USRA 0-6-0.jpg
I`ve still yet to put it back together and add DCC & sound......but soon!.
Brian.
 

David Halfpenny

Western Thunderer
DaveyB,
From the photos I saw, the 21 tonner was arguably the best item on the layout, but I have no information about it.
I would assume it was to 1:32 scale.
My first instinct was to scroll through Mercian's site, but there isn't a 21 tonner on there, at least, not now.

(The layout was dismantled many years ago to make room for the builder's next project.
I was fortunate enough to "eBuy" some scratch-built sheds, the Ruston (a Mercian kit) and a modified G1MRCo 16 tonner, but the vendor kept the loader and the 21 tonner, and I don't blame him.) id

David
 

David Halfpenny

Western Thunderer
I still like the idea of an indoor 1:32 shunting layout, but i have too much unfinished business

Brian T,

Even with your American distractions, you may well enjoy G1MRA's 75th Anniversary jamboree at Bicester Heritage on 1st or 2nd October 2022.
It's planned to include a live-steam shunting puzzle.
The jargon is "Inglenook 3-2-2", the size is 96" x 14", and the track schematic is:Screenshot 2021-10-19 at 23.10.07.png
As there won't be track power, locomotives (live-steam and battery-diesel) will be r/c, and the host's locos and wagons will have r/c Jackson-type couplers. A spec for those will be circulated beforehand.​

I'm very keen to 'push' this exhibit to demonstrate operability of 1:32 Scale even in an area equivalent to two standard wooden railway sleepers side by side.
As Simon wisely says - "less pontificating and more modelling" - in this case modelling the stock, the controls, the couplings and the operations, even though it won't be in any way scenic.​
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Brian, I do like the Sunset Switcher, very nice. Where do you post the P48 US stuff? Maybe Area 51?!

May I ask if you have sold the 04 and if so where? I keep looking at my O gauge thoughts and that may make me decide about the 03!!

All the best

Julian
 

Brian T

Western Thunderer
Brian T,

The jargon is "Inglenook 3-2-2", the size is 96" x 14", and the track schematic is:View attachment 150701
Hi David,

I`ve used the "Inglenook" senario in quite a few layout`s idea`s over the years,as it`s an ideal way to get some quick operation out of a small space,not to mention you only need one loco and either 5 or 8 wagons to get going with.

And i wish you all the best in your endevors in pushing 1:32 as it does have it`s merits, but for me having to start turning wheels sets down and such just to get the right profiles made me think that i`d be better off sticking with P48 as i have all of the necessary items to hand anyway.

Brian, I do like the Sunset Switcher, very nice. Where do you post the P48 US stuff? Maybe Area 51?!

May I ask if you have sold the 04 and if so where? I keep looking at my O gauge thoughts and that may make me decide about the 03!!

All the best

Julian

Hi Julian,
The 04 has a gone to a member who was intrested in it on here,which to be honest makes my job of moving it on simpler!.

As for posting`s,i have`nt done any of late,but i am building the baseboards for a small P48 switcing layout which i`ll probably post in the layout`s section in time.
And yes the switcher is really nice just wish i could get my hands on an SP S12 steam switcher, but when there touching close to a $1000 inc. all the relevent taxes and postage,then i think that that`ll be the one that get`s away!!.(and that`s without the conversion cost`s.....)

Brian.
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
just wish i could get my hands on an SP S12 steam switcher, but when there touching close to a $1000 inc. all the relevent taxes and postage,then i think that that`ll be the one that get`s away!!.(and that`s without the conversion cost`s.....)

Now you're talking - a proper switcher... I presume you have a copy of this....

DSCF4271.jpg

I'm the other one which dabbles with P48 - mainly SSW with a bit of SP :). And like yourself I have enough track parts to build a 'small' switching layout - including a self guarded frog!
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
All this is just too tempting Brian!! I have also had many false starts....

Look forward to seeing the beginnings of the layout.

Cheers

Julian
 

Brian T

Western Thunderer
Now you're talking - a proper switcher... I presume you have a copy of this....

View attachment 150797

I'm the other one which dabbles with P48 - mainly SSW with a bit of SP :). And like yourself I have enough track parts to build a 'small' switching layout - including a self guarded frog!

Hi Dave,
I do have a copy of that book,which has been well read over the years....
My main interests are GofG, Southern along with the Georgia & Florida & Georgia Northern in the early 50's,but for my future modeling efforts i`m going to concerntraite on the ATSF with a bit SP & UP thrown in for good measure,again in the early 50's.

But i have seen you P48 modeling and most impressive it is too,especially the GP9 you built....


All this is just too tempting Brian!! I have also had many false starts....

Look forward to seeing the beginnings of the layout.

Cheers

Julian

Cheers Julian,

It is all to tempting some times,but modeling time is all too short so i really need to get my backside in to gear this time...!

Brian.
 

David Halfpenny

Western Thunderer
I`ve used the "Inglenook" scenario in quite a few layouts ideas over the years as it`s an ideal way to get some quick operation out of a small space, not to mention you only need one loco and either 5 or 8 wagons to get going with.

Since the track I'm building in my new garden is end-to-end between two termini, it necessarily includes four distinct Inglenook scenarios for those days when a bit of pottering is called for :)

And i wish you all the best in your endeavours in pushing 1:32 as it does have its merits, but for me having to start turning wheels sets down and such just to get the right profiles made me think that i`d be better off sticking with P48 as i have all of the necessary items to hand anyway.

That's a powerful argument, Brian.
At the moment, almost all 1:32 modellers put up with G1MRA Standard wheels, though a major r-t-r manufacturer compensates for their excessive size by putting wagon wheels under coaches!
The only off-the-shelf G1MRA Fine and ScaleOne32 wheels I know of are Roxey Mouldings coach wheels in stainless steel.​
 

Simon

Flying Squad
The only off-the-shelf G1MRA Fine and ScaleOne32 wheels I know of are Roxey Mouldings coach wheels in stainless steel.[/INDENT]

Have Slaters stopped doing their G1F wheels then?

In any event, scale is independent of track standards, Binondepotman on here does some fantastic 1/32 G1 modelling with the "normal" wheels etc.

I think the thing with G1 is that you have to actually want to do it in the first place, if you're a "waverer" or not sure then it is best to stick to the smaller scales like 7mm - there is frankly nothing "reasonable" about G1 in any of its forms.

But if you do persist, G1 models have a "presence" that the smaller scales can't match, in my opinion.

DSCN0071.jpg
 

David Halfpenny

Western Thunderer
Have Slaters stopped doing their G1F wheels then?

Oops! No, they haven't. Simon!
It's my elderly brain discounting them because they're supplied at 41mm back to back to run on Standard track, as per this web-page:
Slater's Plastikard - Gauge 1 (1:32 Scale) Wheels

I should know better because
(a) I've been up to the Slaters factory to discuss exactly this with Smith and White, who sent me home with a pack of etched washers designed for packing the wheels out to Fine or ScaleOne32.
(b) I do have some F series wheelsets supplied set to 42mm.
G1 models have a "presence" that the smaller scales can't match

Not half! What a stunning photo! David
 
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