Sycamore Creek Railroad

Peter Bunce

Active Member
Hi,

Another narrow gauge (3ft) railroad in Colorado was the Clear Creek Railroad - this ran from Golden Colorado, up the canyon of the Clear Creek to Central City, and was built as a result of gold being found nearby.

The CCRR had a series of small 2 6 0 locos which went through many versions with small. and getting larger, tenders especially. The little railroad being mostly at the level of the creek was frequently washed out; it has all gone now with a road running up Clear Creek Canyon, but at a higher elevation.

These locos were built by the Porter company who specialized in small industrial type locos generally, so these were for them quite large. This one is built on the chassis of the Bachmann 'Indie' or Industrial loco which is very small. It was stripped down and a new boiler added, made from PVC water pipe, new domes, more pipe though of a different diameter for the domes, with multiple plasticard discs for the tops. The boiler is tiny so to get more steam space a second (the centre one) was added., the regulator being in the rear one above the firebox The chimmney is a series of cones plus tube and is called a 'Congdon' stack after the design of them, the cowcatcher this time is scratch built, thick plasticard is used for the spokes and then sanded off to a compound slope as it changed towards the top. The headlight is scratchbult the curved top is again layers of plasticard and filler to assist -the sides have small painting on them - the original being hand painted. The new cab is more plasticard (what would we do without it!), with sliding windows and the firebox occupying a good deal of the cab being more tube, bits of smaller tube and bits of wire. The same applies to the Westinghouse pump - even more tube and discs,

The tender is the second style that these locos had the first was 4 wheeled, then 6 wheeled, and finally the had bogie tenders; the body for this came from Australia as it was a master for some to be made for a kit with the American site (myLargescale.com) which was running another of its instructions etc for building versions of these.

I have painted it in a modern version (its warmer than Prussian blue which is very cold blue) of the darker Caledonian Railway blue, and it is a Revell colour. American locos of the smaller size were bought from private loco building companies; thus the colour was what the railroad chose or the builders offered a set of their own colours. Baldwin Loco works has a whole set according to cost, and 'Baldwin green lasted for virtually a century, after the bright multiple colours began to change to more servicable hues. The colours of these is not known so you can choose!

This has the CR black & white lining - 4 pieces on each side & end of the tender; they were printed in the USA, and included the painted sides of the headlight, and the Porter Loco Works builders plate in the shape of a shield.

The loco is 22.5 inches long.

Here are some photos of it on a short train of scratch built freight cars with the merest edge of the Waycar (guards van in English) peeping out as the train is posed on the trestle.

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A couple of photos of the loco taken inside

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A photo across the garden with the station and the edge of the 'town' behind.

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On the trestle with a short train

Yours Peter.
 

Peter Bunce

Active Member
Hi,

I was making my 1.20.3 scale freight cars from plywood, covered with pre-scribed styrene card. However the plywood has now run out so I have made the latest boxcar from PCV solid foam board . This has several thicknesses – I use the 5mm thick version, and over here in the UK there seem to be various degrees of hardness; I used a medium hardness version made better with the fact that I can go round the corner and buy some from a friend when ever I need more!

The boxcar is one of the first ones that were built for the Denver & South Park RR by Barney & Smith according to my (superb, I would not be with out it!) book of plans from the USA. I scaled his plan up on my computer to full size the boxcar is just over 15" long, and joined the sheets together and started cutting the sheet: the floor ends inside the sides and sides are all cut together. The sheets I am using can be easily cut with a heavy knife blade (like a Stanley type knife).

Then the long job of scribing the planks was started; I use an Olfa cutter but others are also available. Do not pull the cutter through the material as it will pull chunks out of the surface: instead push it – scoring a groove in the material. This was done for the sides and ends and then the body was assembled around the floor, which is inset at the bottom by 5mm or so. For glue I use an epoxy ‘contact’ cement – Evo-stik – it is very good, and stays slightly flexible, being Latex based.

The underside of the floor is then fitted with 4 ‘end to end’ stiffeners made from wood that I had in stock: I do not make the underside of the floor to competition standards as it is not very often seen – the only item I fit is a scratch built air brake cylinder, made up from scrap from the ’scrap’ box.

With the (open) box now complete the end/side joins are strengthened by adding small right angled triangles in the corners and also some scrap 5mm square strip as well; the latter is also used along the floor join. The truck bolster positions are determined and inside the body I add some scrap lead flashing to weight the vehicle to about 1.5lbs.

To keep the sides from bowing I add a couple of stiffeners across the body, (divide the internal measurement into three and add them at the locations from that), about half the depth of the sides and with the same shape as the roof angles – these also provide mountings for five ‘end to end’ stringers (two each side of the centerline and one on the centerline) that both will keep the roof flat, and provide an ample area for glue – these are again from scrap: check that all are level before the glue sets.

The roof is from 1.5mm styrene, in two halves, again score out the plank lines, the scoring will cut a sliver of plastic out of the surface – give the roof a quick sanding to remove the swarf – the scoring is OK on the harder plastic of styrene. Then the two pieces can be glued on: I add a ‘filler’ to the gap at the center and when dry file it to shape. The walkway is also 1.5mm styrene card scored for the planks it is made from: add the fixings from scrap.

The underframe is completed by adding the bolsters for the trucks – I had sawn off a couple of the last bits of the bolsters from a Bachmann underframe and these were fixed to my (from scrap) bolsters as an experiment – one is swung by 90 degrees and it seems to run better as a result. The needle beams are again from scrap, with the two truss rods being made from bicycle spokes (approx. 1.8mm diameter stainless steel) that is somewhat difficult to paint so I coated them in a thin layer of glue before painting to give a ‘tooth’ to them for the paint to ‘grip’ onto. The ends just outside the bolsters of the tie rods are also made from the bits of bicycle spokes, on plastic packing to get them looking correct.

The trucks are from Bachmann, but are heavily modified first – I buy when I can the Bachmann flatcar kits as donors of the trucks, the body will donate its center part fro boardwalks for my buildings so there is very little wasted!

Back to the trucks – file off the center, and axlebox details using a sanding drum, and be careful as the waste can get hot when being sanded off. Round off the base of the axleboxes. Mark the centerline of the top bars of the truck and remove the outer half, add 1.5mm thick strips 6mm wide, and also a 6mm square piece at the extreme end to the plan, and then also add the diagonals as well, with the upper end inside the 6mm square pieces on the end. When dry remove the projecting piece on the bottom horizontals. Use plenty of glue. The photos will make all clear; in the center add a central framework from 1mm styrene card, and then the ends of the swing planks from Sintra (PVC solid foam) board scrap. One of the truck sideframes locating spigots can be given some compensation by enlarging the hole in the base and filing the vertical lower sides of the spigot slightly – when assembled it can then pivot slightly. LGB versions of the Bachmann trucks (they are virtually the same) have this done already.
I also add the brake shoes – these need a central pair of (scrap) blocks, and a couple of end to end strips that the brake cross beams are fitted to with the brake blocks pre fixed to them, don’t forget to pre paint the blocks themselves as it is easier then! On the front of the axleboxes are fitted some small rounded top pieces to replicate the inspection doors for the axleboxes.

Cross members between sideframes are made from scrap are fitted, after re-assembly of the truck(s), file out a small amount of the top of the extreme ends to provide a glue area for them, and fix them in position. The outer (with the coupler) end are two small slightly sloping upwards to avoid the coupling. Re-assemble the trucks, after an initial paint (don’t forget the wheels at the same time) and weather to your choice. Vacuum or air pipes are from bits of spoke and a pipe from the outer flexible tube of our electrical wire, leave a single wire inside to provide some stiffness, and add a small piece of ‘chain’ from twisted fuse wire.

Finally paint the body – I used a primer then acrylic paints, the decals are partly my own and partly Hartford ones. Then for the ‘fun part’ – the weathering – first seal the decals with a coat of Johnson’s Klear for varnish then lots of very thin layers of paint + 10% windscreen washer , as a wetting agent to keep the paint laying down correctly, in many shades are overlaid to your satisfaction – don’t forget the roof would be darker from the locomotive soot. Don’t use black if you can avoid it: is too powerful and deadens everything too much, shades of gray or brown I find look much better. The thin layers of paint will look darker than when they are dry, practice is the key. In addition I run a pencil down the plank joins to enhance them – this is gray, and as it is done early on in the weathering the shine from the graphite is hidden by layers of thin paint as time goes on.

Well, that is somewhat over a thousand words (!!) rather than any more here are some photos of this vehicle, which I hope explain things far better!

Here are some photos -

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a couple of photos of the D&SP boxcar

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The Bachmann freight car trucks that have been carved off and then added to with both PVC sheet and plasticardb

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The finished article before it was messed up with plenty of dirty paint.

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The boxcar in harsh sunshine.


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A final photo of a smaller and even more modified trucks underneath of a Denver & Rio Grande weathered boxcar.

This is the first bogie design; after Gen Dodge visited the Ffestiniog Railway the first wagons for the D&RG were 4 wheeled, built in 1871 - those did not work in America so the use of longer vehicles with flatcars being the first, but boxcars very soon appeared starting in 1872 & 1874. The first boxcars were built onto flatcars, using the locations for the side stakes as a start for the framing, the outside framed boxcars were the first but then a second outer planking layer was added to protect the load - which at time could be gold, or silver ore - this, being heavy, was stacked over the bogies on its way to the smelters..

Yours Peter.
 

Peter Bunce

Active Member
Hi,

A pair of Boilers

As I have built a boiler works there was a need to have some boilers - so I built a pair, using the empty 'energy drink' cans as a former for them.


The cans that I have used are 3.5 scale feet in diameter, and about 9 to10 scale feet long – perfect! Lager cans are much larger and could also be used. The youths, having drunk the contents, discard the now empty can onto the ground and thus they are everywhere, and a worthwhile number that I was going to use for my purpose, were checked to verify that they were are unmarked – I did not want bent or bashed ones! These were brought home, washed out and put to one side whilst I worked out what to do with them.

Another source of a tube of this approximate size, is the one used for the cartridge guns containing filler etc. They will need some extra end discs to close of the ends however., and are a bit thicker in thickness.

My boilers are described as ‘stationary boilers’ they generally, on the full size ones, have the three pieces of rolled boiler plate, the centre one is the inner one, with the end portions lapping over the edges of the centre part; all are riveted together. Locomotive style boilers were also used: these have a (very small) taper as the sections with the smallest diameter boiler sheet at the front and the other two lapped onto the top of the one in front. That will give a small taper; the largest diameter portion is therefore over the firebox, with its vertical sides. This style of boiler was used a lot for ‘portable’ engines which were the forerunners of the Traction Engine. Stationary boilers provided steam for machinery (don’t forget that I model before electricity was being used industrially). These boilers are generally fitted inside brick support walls, and above the area for the fire, the smoke from which ran through the tubes to heat the water, sometimes with a return (doubled back) flue..


Back to my boiler – the ‘energy drink’ cans that form the boiler are generally made from 4 thou aluminum sheet, which dents easily; so one can is cut apart (using a slitting saw or a cutting disc, and please protect your eyes when using these) the ends are discarded, and the tube cut down its length; I made a couple of discs from 3mm thick PVC solid foam; political or such signs are a good source for this thinner material) glue to the ends of the whole can: measure the can and its new ends, and divide it into three. Add a small amount to that and in the centre of the can add a wrapper; from the tube from the ‘cut apart can(s) ’ measure two more pieces to one third length, of the whole can, and cut them apart from the wrappers (for the can, now a tube, with a vertical slit down its length, using your modeling scissors. Before adding the wrappers to the ends I filled the depressions between the ends and the body of the can with filler – I used up some window frame sealant but anything will do; to assist in keeping it there I add a layer of glue and add the filler over it. Smooth off the filler when dry, and then the wrappers can be added, these are then glued over a still whole can). These measures make the can much stronger; it now has a centre wrapper – add to that another wrapper; with the first one I made this from heavy paper – it needed more work and some filler to smooth off the step that was the overlap for the supposed boiler wrapper; in Mark 2 I will use some .010 plasticard, and double the overlap with the rear edge being smoothed off when dry.

When dry the couple of pieces precut to 1/3rd of the can, plus ends, length can be added. These are glued to the ends of the can you already have, and make the end section quite strong, they go over the PVC ends and are flush with them, covering the filler. I used Evo-stik as a contact cement, letting it almost dry as the instructions, and then adding the two sections; there will be a small section left this should be at the bottom and can be filled with a small piece from another can. There will be a narrow section left – this can be filled with another small strip; make sure that this is at the bottom of the unit, and if required smooth off any rough edges.


Now for the difficult bits! The outer sections need covering with plasticard sheet – I used heavy paper for the centre one, as above – and had to do more work as a result; next time it will be 10 thou plasticard sheet in the centre; the ends are covered in pre-curved 20 thou sheet held on with Evo-stik epoxy glue with an overlap of about 8 – 9 mm it is not critical. The overlap can be glued to the under sheet with styrene glue. To ensure the overlap is well glued I lightly secure it in a vice holding down the overlap for about 1 hour, whilst the glue dries. Ignore the ends for now. My miniature rolling mills for the sheets are my fingers – start off against the edge of a table, and continue it with your fingers to sharpen the roll. Glue them in position, getting both ends even and with the overlap in the same position and on the opposite side from the centre wrapper – use a ruler to ensure all is correct, and that all are fixed the same way – I managed to do it wrong so some had to stripped off and done again!


Boilers have lots of rivets! Cambrian Models, who amongst other things make plastic rivet heads (no stalk – in cross section they are triangular, the ref number is NA7 and each sprue holds about 230 rivets; (link http://cambrianmodels.co.uk/16intropage2.html) they can be glued down with plastic cement, they also make some plastic nuts and bolt heads. This quite small boiler has in excess of 300 on the horizontal seams these being double riveted – there could be up to 4 lines, on the larger and higher pressure boilers, on the seams between the plates – round the circumference they are a single line. The double lines are 4mm apart on each line with the upper ones stepped sideways by 2mm; the single lines are 3mm apart. Each rivet is lifted from the desk surface by a liquid cement charged brush after wiping some liquid cement where they are going – the (tiny) rivet will then in position ‘drop off’ the brush into its intended location. Do not take a lot off their sprue: about 10 or so at once is OK – they do have a habit of hiding or worse still flying off into the ‘wide blue yonder’, be careful cutting them off the sprue too heavily– I use a curved blade scalpel, with a gentle pressure, pulling the blade down the length of the sprue taking two or three at a time, and keep a couple of my fingers above them hopefully ensure they stay on the desk.

These boilers had 4 heavy fixing lugs; I made these from 1.5mm plasticard; one part curved to the boiler curve and another under the lower edge; a small brace fits on top and in the centre, each one has twelve fixing bolts made from 30 thou cubes. They are fitted just above the centerline of the boiler. These are what held the boiler to the brick walls that they would normally be fitted into; the walls were double brick (at least with the inner ones at a height that these lugs would fit onto; I am not sure how they fitted, as naturally boilers expand and contract, so there must have been some leeway in the fixings.


What about the ends? After the marathon ‘riveting’ of the sides (I am impressed by the work that the boilersmith’s did after the above, even more so as I can well imagine the noise produced, no wonder Boilersmith’s became deaf) I ‘chickened out’ on drilling the ends for tubes or just the ends (so holes) of them – I also did not trust myself to drill the holes close enough together with the material ripping between holes, and I was not going to make the ends in brass). So I decided that the ends had sunken tubeplates, and these needed some protection, that meant that the ends could have some (scrap) plank covers on them; the planks are from 1.5mm (approx. 1 scale inch) thick plasticard, with a couple of vertical pieces to hold them together; they are supposedly held in the tubes by bolts with an expanding nut and (soft) washer – they would not have any purpose other than protecting the ends; and they make locating the boiler, on its wagon ( flat car for rail transport) easier as well!

I originally fitted a central casting, which needless to say is plasticard and a bit of scrap tube, for a steam take off point. That was later moved to one end, and in the centre I fitted a small (made from a piece of scrap tube), steam dome, this is 17mm diameter and 17mmm high, there is a .020 plasticard base, and a doubled .020 plasticard top with another piece on top of that – supposedly for the steam take-off, or fitting safety valves – the original now is supposed to be for either a safety valve or water feed. Around the base and top are a couple of .015 plasticard (it was easier to curve than .020) strips, pre-curved and cemented in location these have tiny cubes of .030 square plasticard to replicate bolts. On one side there is a vertical line of rivets indicating the join, the total number of pieces in the steam dome is 53!

My first (yes I will make some more, of different sizes – this one is a small one), boiler is 5.5 inches long (say 9 feet scale) and just over 2 inches diameter say 3.5 scale feet.


The second one was started being mark2; this one does use an (empty) Red Bull can; the centre had a wrapper of .010 plasticard, with a doubled overlap, add an extra overlap piece to make the thickness up to .020 the same as the outer ones, where the rivets will fit. This is quite thin and Evo-stik can make the plasticard partially melt so spread the glue, and leave it to be almost dry as the instructions. Make sure that you have them both the same way – I didn’t and it had to come off!

This boiler is just under 6.5 inches long and a scale length of 10.75 feet, with virtually the same diameter. The basic construction is as Mark 1 with more rivets as it is larger, and it has a much larger steam dome – its new owners must use a lot of steam. The planks on the ends are slightly higher, I added and extra and smaller plank. I have painted this boiler a darker colour for some variety; the colour is listed as ‘Indian Red’.

The domes could have the steam outlet on the side of the dome, and the safety valves fitted to the top. My steam dome is a part of a menthol crystals container; cut to length and roughly shaped at the bottom with a sanding drum, finished off with pulling it backwards and forwards over a piece of sandpaper wrapped round the boiler, this is quite a deep section of a circle as the boiler is a small diameter so it will take a time. The top of the steam dome is a layer of 3mm PVC with the edge rounded off, it will then have some .020 discs of access points to the dome, and a larger disc for the base and the strips top and bottom as the previous one. These have the rivets made from tiny cubes of .030 square rod, again applied with the point of a liquid cement charged brush, onto the plasticard which has another layer of the glue – that makes the cubes ‘sit down’ and come off the brush tip.

The water inlet location is towards one end of the boiler, and the other end has a ‘manhole’ – this one is quite small (as is the boiler) and allows access to the interior of the boiler (I presume by a hose?). The outer shape is an ellipse and the fixing arch is made from a piece of .060 plasticard with a couple of bits of rod as well, more .030 cubes for rivet heads are fitted around the ellipse. Two much smaller mud holes have been fitted which are where the mud and scale would be flushed out. The shape for both ellipses’ came from a template I have from my drawing days, and that was a long time ago!

Mark 2 has a different style of fixings for the boiler; these are the style that has the boiler hanging from wrought iron rods that are descending from cross beams above it. The boiler fixings are made from a couple of pieces of .060 with a couple of .020 washers where the bolts to the ends of the rods (forged double pieces at the lower end of the rod, these slot over the piece on the boiler) fit; the upper end has a couple of large nuts with a large washer/plate beneath them – they rest in the slot between two ‘U’ shaped beams fixed with a slot between them. When dry they were drilled with a drill 1.6 diameter – first use a smaller one then enlarge it by hand, the rivets on the bedplate are again .030 cubes.

The collection of planks on the ends are painted various shades of brown over a stone colour undercoat, to indicate the ‘scrap’ assembly of them, being for a temporary purpose,

When painted a pencil is run along the joins to enhance the edges and cover up any overpainting that has gone too far! Finally add the fixing nails, to the vertical pieces of ‘wood’ – small dots added with a pen, and to blend everything together and kill the metallic shine on those pencil lines, varnish the ends. I have added some placards with the name of my boiler shop indicating them as the builders – these were also varnished over when dry, for protection and to ensure the stay in position, they were glued on but the varnish will keep the edges down.

I also made a new flatcar for them, and also a horse drawn boiler wagon.

Here are some photos -

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Mark one boiler in progress

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Mark one boiler almost ready for painting, with lots of the Cambrian rivets!


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Mark 2 in the same condition.

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painted and on the flatcar, with some crates for the ancillaries.

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One of the boilers on the scratch built boiler wagon for alternative transport. The labels on the side are the work of the computer. There are a couple of horses with a mule in front; mules are much better animals for leading as horses can be 'spooked'.

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A close up of the boiler wagon which is basically an enlargement of the drop centre dray wagon for carrying barrels.

Yours Peter
 

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