4mm Podimore: the platelayers are out

Discussion in 'Layout Progress' started by AJC, 20 July 2018.

  1. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    I’ve half a notion that there’s one in the OPC SR Signalling book by Pryer, but can’t be certain.

    Adam
     
  2. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Had a flick through both of Pryer's books, no drawing.
     
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  3. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Thanks - twas only half a notion. And wrong at that!

    Adam
     
  4. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    First wood cut - the ends of the pair of boards have been jigsawed from plywood offcuts left over from house-related work. They're not desperately exciting to look at yet, but other modelling activity is stymied as the element on my soldiering iron has just died...

    Adam
     
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  5. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Back to thinking about the ground frame. What I'm after is this: Ground frame hut, Norden, Swanage Railway (as conserved in use at Norden on the Swanage Railway).

    Looking around for pictures, it seems that Lynton (on the Lynton and Barnstaple) had one of these and there is a book of drawings: Lightmoor Press Books - The Lynton & Barnstaple Railway Measured & Drawn - now I don't need this book (wonderful though it undoubtedly is) but if anyone has a copy and could check that a drawing of the ground frame is present that would be a help. Yes, I know that Kernow also did a resin version and... no.

    Failing that, I seem to remember that @phileakins volunteers on the Swanage Railway - can you help, Phil?

    Adam
     
  6. John Walker

    John Walker Active Member

    Hello Adam

    I have that book and have scanned the page. PM me at john@3mmJSW.uk

    Regards
    john Walker
     
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  7. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Yes, it's in the book, page 227. Knew I'd seen it somewhere. The drawing is based on the one on the Swanage Railway which was originally at Wool.

    7'11" wide, 8'11" deep, 9'7" tall at the front and 6'10.5" at the rear.

    John has beaten me to scanning for you.
     
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  8. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Thank you both! Email sent.

    Adam
     
  9. phileakins

    phileakins Western Thunderer

    Hi Adam

    Let me know if you want anything else from the hut - I'll add it to the list of stuff I've promised to do!

    My excuse is that I've taken forever assembling a dissertation (or it seems like it) but it's done now. I'll get the camera out. :)

    Phil
     
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  10. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Thanks Phil, an interior shot would be a help if that's possible? I have enough exterior pictures but I couldn't tell you if the frame is at the front or back even (I'd reckon the rear though, given where the door is). No rush, none at all.

    Adam
     
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  11. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Casting around for something suitably modest to serve as a station building - in LSWR light railway terms, this usually means corrugated iron or concrete. The Fawley branch had some quite elegant (but rather large) Arts and Crafts influenced designs but that's not quite what I had in mind. Then I stumbled across a composite drawing of the structures used on the Basingstoke and Alton Light Railway over on the other channel which at just shy of 40' long and made of wriggly tin fitted the bill nicely. There are some quite good photographs of the structure at Bentworth and Lasham that survived as a coal merchants on ebay which has helped and the current state of play with the carcass of 40 and 60 thou' plastic sheet is below:

    Building_001.jpg

    I can see that I'm going to have to paint the two-tone interior wall scheme before assembling the front walls...

    The box in the waiting room is the ladies loo and the lean to at the end the gents which had a markedly narrow door (2'!) and no window:

    Building_002.jpg

    My version will be somewhat less decrepit than the state of the real thing below!

    Bentworth_Lasham_05.jpg

    Adam
     
  12. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    A bit of post-work plastic bashing:

    Building_003.jpg

    The corrugated sheet is Slater's superglued in place in part for speed and to reduce the risk of solvent meltdown. The overlap on the ends and on the toilet lean to took a bit of thinking about but eventually I decided that a strip of 5 thou' would offer just enough relief and it appears to have worked. Primer will prove the truth or otherwise of that.

    Building_004.jpg

    I'd forgotten how quickly buildings can progress - though it will slow a little because I need to paint the interior before adding the front walls. These latter will be detailed before assembly and I suppose I should think about what level of internal detail to add...

    Adam
     
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  13. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    It depends on what you can see, especially if lit, and whether you'll be as mad as I was with my 7mm scale LT mess hut..... when I put this lot inside (apart from the deckchair and television).

    Mess 63.jpg
     
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  14. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Of course - it shan't be lit, partly because it's the Southern and they were, erm, parsimonious, partly because there's no way I'm going to try running a service after dark (have you tried 4mm three links in gloom?!), but mostly because I quite fancy having the station lit by Tilley lamps on hooks, per the S&DJR line across the Levels or the Yeovil - Taunton branch whose minor stops were all lit like that. So not the lamps themselves, but certainly the hooks.

    Adam
     
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  15. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    What style are the Tilley lamps. Could they be fashioned from tiny beads and wire?

    7mm three links are bad enough :confused:, let alone 4mm three links! :eek:
     
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  16. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Yes, almost certainly they could (and I might) but since they were only hung up at dusk, lit...

    Adam
     
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  17. ullypug

    ullypug Western Thunderer

    EDM models do some very nice dummy bolts, washers and rivets. Just right for corrugated iron:
    NBW & Rivets - Page 2 of 2 - NG Trains
     
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  18. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    So I succumbed to interior detailing. At least, partially, where it will be easily seen. First, looking through the booking office window we can see the ticket rack, window and assorted shelves.

    Building_005.jpg

    Looking through the main doors, bench, ticket window and array of posters (borrowed from online sources and reproduced via the office printer). This will be lost in the gloom.

    Building_006.jpg

    Looking down from above and remembering that the ticket office windows seem to have been barred from the inside:

    Building_007.jpg

    More poster boards and a stove - for the staff but not the ladies' waiting room - along with the casing for sliding doors. These latter were a retro fit on the real thing and will be the last items to go on here as I'll obviously have to paint behind them. roof next. More wiggly tin...

    Adam
     
  19. ullypug

    ullypug Western Thunderer

    Very impressive sir, though mine's bigger than yours!!
     
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  20. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Your station equates to about a third of my layout space but as ever, it's what you do with it...

    Adam
     
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