john lewsey
Western Thunderer
Agreed Mike, I get emails from them and am interested in some of them.
John
John
Scottish Wagon Works
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Joe's Garage
Western Thunderer
Hi John
These look very interesting kits, very tempting. I have a question regarding these and definitely not wanting to sound as though I am "wishing", how easy is this to print in S scale?
I know very little about 3 D printing so this is a "naive ignorance" sort of question.
Cheers
Julian
These look very interesting kits, very tempting. I have a question regarding these and definitely not wanting to sound as though I am "wishing", how easy is this to print in S scale?
I know very little about 3 D printing so this is a "naive ignorance" sort of question.
Cheers
Julian
NewportRod
Western Thunderer
Bob
If you look at the Scottish Wagon Works website you'll see a list of a selection of possible liveries (e.g. here). Then a view of the Private Owner Wagons Index in the Resources section gives sources of images of some, at least, of the wagons.
Cheers
Rod
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Sorry for the delay but I've been holding out for a reply from HMRS regarding using some of their images, but alas nothing.
Regarding liveries, we have put some suggestions onto the wagon page. There is currently no definitive list - at least as far as we know - and a degree of local research is required. For example the OPC book that I'm using for my own layout is The Railways of Dundee. It lists a large number of wagons, about 700, all of which were registered with the Caledonian Railway and it even includes pictures of 8 of them. Which leaves two particular problems:
1) - I don't have pictures for nearly 700 wagons that were registered to the Caledonian
2) - I don't have any information on wagons registered with the NB
I have found the HMRS is a great resource. In particular their 'Collections' section includes a 'Photographs' search facility with a drop down list of Private Owners. By working through this I am trying to match wagons to the photographs. As our range develops, we will be matching more of the prototype owners with more of the models.
I will try and add more of the matches to the site.
Regarding liveries, we have put some suggestions onto the wagon page. There is currently no definitive list - at least as far as we know - and a degree of local research is required. For example the OPC book that I'm using for my own layout is The Railways of Dundee. It lists a large number of wagons, about 700, all of which were registered with the Caledonian Railway and it even includes pictures of 8 of them. Which leaves two particular problems:
1) - I don't have pictures for nearly 700 wagons that were registered to the Caledonian
2) - I don't have any information on wagons registered with the NB
I have found the HMRS is a great resource. In particular their 'Collections' section includes a 'Photographs' search facility with a drop down list of Private Owners. By working through this I am trying to match wagons to the photographs. As our range develops, we will be matching more of the prototype owners with more of the models.
I will try and add more of the matches to the site.
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
We are very close to having the 5 plank end door available, we have made for changes to the detail on the kit but fingers crossed it should be getting sent out to those who pre-ordered it in a couple of weeks. The drawings for the first four plank wagons are developing slowly but surely and we hope to start testing of these probably in a couple of months.
Our plan is to develop a series of 7 plank kits. We are working on the research for this and thanks to some members on WT he have gotten really good information that is helping. Because of the variations available, we are looking at how best to make these available. It will probably consist of the main body options being separate kits with multiple options either included or at the very least available as alternatives. At the moment we are hoping to have the core kit ready for summer this year.
Our plan is to develop a series of 7 plank kits. We are working on the research for this and thanks to some members on WT he have gotten really good information that is helping. Because of the variations available, we are looking at how best to make these available. It will probably consist of the main body options being separate kits with multiple options either included or at the very least available as alternatives. At the moment we are hoping to have the core kit ready for summer this year.
NewportRod
Western Thunderer
To give an example Mike the website page on RY Pickering 16 foot, 5 plank, 10 ton, end door, private trader gives Lochgelly Iron & Coal Company - Fife as and example. Searching on Lochgelly in the Private Owner Wagons Index tells you that there's an image in Private Owner Wagons: Volume 4 by Bill Hudson on page 100.
Hope this helps
Rod
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Hi Julian,
The short answer is yes we can.
We have recently delivered an order in Gauge 3 which was printed from our drawing file so manipulating the scale up or down of relatively straightforward. There are obviously limitations going too small, the finer parts become too delicate but given our successful printing in 4mm and 7mm, then S Scale is very much achievable. Just contact us via the website.
John
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Just to expand on the 7 plank.
The two main options are the cupboard door version and the drop door.
- The cupboard door type were Scottish private traders but there are a couple of end variations
- The drop door were widely used throughout and we have now found examples in use in Scotland, Wales and England. They were used by both private owners, by the Highland Railway as Loco Coal vehicles and by the Barry Railway dia 72. The NB also used this type but with a variation to the ironwork.
As you can see, figuring out the best way to bring the widest variation in a reasonable timescale is the challenge. The good news is that we are making decent progress.
Cheers
John
MikeAllerton
Member
On the HMRS website, under photographs, there is another filter further down the page called "collections", which when you select "Pickering, RY" gives you access to 825 photos of RY Pickering vehicles, the majority of which are Scottish private traders.
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Fixed end wagon in the service of Wm Duncan, coal merchant of Almondbank.
John
John
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Scubaidh Dubh
Member
I'm very impressed with these, John.
Was there a broad specification as regards to buffers fitted or did Pickerings use a company supplied buffer?
I'm only asking as my pregroup sources on wagons are still very limited.
Davy.
Was there a broad specification as regards to buffers fitted or did Pickerings use a company supplied buffer?
I'm only asking as my pregroup sources on wagons are still very limited.
Davy.
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Thank you Davy.
Think of it from the buyers viewpoint. Purchasing a wagon must have been like a visit to Starbucks, far more options than you need.
There are photos of these wagons with very simple plain shank buffers (these are coming), with 2 ribs and with 4 ribs. For the end door version a nib could be added to the top rib.
Initially we have followed the CRA drawings but the plain shanks will be added as an option to allow the builder more choice.
John
Think of it from the buyers viewpoint. Purchasing a wagon must have been like a visit to Starbucks, far more options than you need.
There are photos of these wagons with very simple plain shank buffers (these are coming), with 2 ribs and with 4 ribs. For the end door version a nib could be added to the top rib.
Initially we have followed the CRA drawings but the plain shanks will be added as an option to allow the builder more choice.
John
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
The 16' end door in its pre-weathered state.
This kit is available with these transfer sheets included.
Weathering next
John
This kit is available with these transfer sheets included.
Weathering next
John
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
A couple of wagons coming off the workbench.
One each of our 15’ fixed end 6 plank and our 16’ end door 5 plank.
John
One each of our 15’ fixed end 6 plank and our 16’ end door 5 plank.
John
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
Thank you to @George M for sharing his post A Barclay pug in 7mm scale showing him making very fine use of one of our kits. Some lovely modelling.
As well as two different Pickering mineral wagons, we also now have the Highland Railway, Jones - double deck sheep wagon available. More info here. Used obviously for sheep traffic, but also for moving pigs to England apparently.
John
As well as two different Pickering mineral wagons, we also now have the Highland Railway, Jones - double deck sheep wagon available. More info here. Used obviously for sheep traffic, but also for moving pigs to England apparently.
John
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
That......is really nice
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
As work progresses on our 7 plank RY Pickering wagon, we have been also been preparing for the liveries that are appropriate. This is the first sheet to be completed, there will be a number of others to follow and they will be available via our transfers page.None for us modelling Welsh prototypes?
Based on the HMRS photograph ACP926
John
John Duffy
Western Thunderer
It's been a busy day today as we have now put our other Highland Railway vehicles onto the website and added direct links to their availability in 7mm, Gauge 1 and Gauge 3.
We have made some adjustments to the kits to accept Gauge 3 buffer shanks without the need for re-drilling and some other tweaks.
It would be helpful if Gauge 1 knew what scale they were using but we have done some of our private trader wagons and they look good. In both the larger scales we offer the option to personalise the registration number and build date on the wagons.
Both Paul and I much prefer working in the larger scales so the biggest problem is likely to be resisting these ourselves!
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John
We have made some adjustments to the kits to accept Gauge 3 buffer shanks without the need for re-drilling and some other tweaks.
It would be helpful if Gauge 1 knew what scale they were using but we have done some of our private trader wagons and they look good. In both the larger scales we offer the option to personalise the registration number and build date on the wagons.
Both Paul and I much prefer working in the larger scales so the biggest problem is likely to be resisting these ourselves!
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