oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Tony - Sorry I missed your posts. I think I was just about posting mine above as yours arrived. Anyway, they made oi larf.
Col - Thanks for your comment there. It makes a lot of difference when you know that these photos are accomplishing what Tim wants. Those latest comments are very apposite too.
Simon. I find these fixed formations difficult to understand from an operator's perspective, although they are doubtless more "efficient" and cost effective. When you look at some of the TV reports about cramming people in to long distance trains because they simply can't be strengthened it makes you wonder whether things are actually better than the "olden days". Certainly not from the consumer's POV.
Four lineside views here with no information provided by Tim for the first three. All are remasked from large format square negatives. I don't recognise the location but it doesn't take a genius to work out that this first one is an A3 on the Southern so likely to be a special train. Trawling Six Bells Junction I've found the likely candidate. I believe this is the Southern Counties Enterprise of 25th August 1963 which was run by the Southern Counties Touring Society. The loco here was 60112 St Simon. The train ran from Waterloo to Hamworthy Junction via Basingstoke behind 60112, then Hamworthy Junction to Hamworthy and return behind M7 30052. 60112 collected the train from Hamworty Junction and took it on to Weymouth Junction where 57XX pannier tanks 7782 and 4689 took over for the stint from Weymouth Junction to Maiden Newton. Then it was 60112 again Maiden Newton to Westbury and Westbury to Waterloo.
60112 was a Grantham engine in August 1963 ending up at New England by way of Doncaster. It was withdrawn at the end of 1964 and was scrapped during February 1965 at Kings of Norwich.
A Bulleid Pacific on its home turf. This is none other than 35028, Clan Line. It's from the same strip of negatives as the one above so same date and same unknown location. At the time this was a Nine Elms engine. The SLS report it as still at Stewarts Lane but I suspect they've missed the transfer which occurred in June 1959. It's very unlikely that a Stewarts Lane engine would be working a train on the Bournemouth line. In September 1964 it moved to Weymouth Radipole and in April 1967 back to Nine Elms from where it was withdrawn on the last day of Southern steam, 9th July 1967.
Another Southern Rebuilt Pacific, same day and location. This is Battle of Britain 34088, 213 Squadron, rebuilt at Eastleigh in 1960. At the time it was Nine Elms resident moving to Eastleigh in September 1964. Withdrawal came in mid-March 1967 and thence to Cashmore's Newport where it was scrapped in March 1968.
And now for something completely different. This is "Old Oak Common . March 1964." with first generation Castle 4088, Dartmouth Castle. This had been stored at Swindon in 1962 but was reinstated to St Phillips Marsh in November 1963. At the time of this photo it had only a couple of months to go, being withdrawn in May 1964. It went to Cohen's Morriston where it met it's end in September the same year.
Brian
Col - Thanks for your comment there. It makes a lot of difference when you know that these photos are accomplishing what Tim wants. Those latest comments are very apposite too.
Simon. I find these fixed formations difficult to understand from an operator's perspective, although they are doubtless more "efficient" and cost effective. When you look at some of the TV reports about cramming people in to long distance trains because they simply can't be strengthened it makes you wonder whether things are actually better than the "olden days". Certainly not from the consumer's POV.
Four lineside views here with no information provided by Tim for the first three. All are remasked from large format square negatives. I don't recognise the location but it doesn't take a genius to work out that this first one is an A3 on the Southern so likely to be a special train. Trawling Six Bells Junction I've found the likely candidate. I believe this is the Southern Counties Enterprise of 25th August 1963 which was run by the Southern Counties Touring Society. The loco here was 60112 St Simon. The train ran from Waterloo to Hamworthy Junction via Basingstoke behind 60112, then Hamworthy Junction to Hamworthy and return behind M7 30052. 60112 collected the train from Hamworty Junction and took it on to Weymouth Junction where 57XX pannier tanks 7782 and 4689 took over for the stint from Weymouth Junction to Maiden Newton. Then it was 60112 again Maiden Newton to Westbury and Westbury to Waterloo.
60112 was a Grantham engine in August 1963 ending up at New England by way of Doncaster. It was withdrawn at the end of 1964 and was scrapped during February 1965 at Kings of Norwich.
A Bulleid Pacific on its home turf. This is none other than 35028, Clan Line. It's from the same strip of negatives as the one above so same date and same unknown location. At the time this was a Nine Elms engine. The SLS report it as still at Stewarts Lane but I suspect they've missed the transfer which occurred in June 1959. It's very unlikely that a Stewarts Lane engine would be working a train on the Bournemouth line. In September 1964 it moved to Weymouth Radipole and in April 1967 back to Nine Elms from where it was withdrawn on the last day of Southern steam, 9th July 1967.
Another Southern Rebuilt Pacific, same day and location. This is Battle of Britain 34088, 213 Squadron, rebuilt at Eastleigh in 1960. At the time it was Nine Elms resident moving to Eastleigh in September 1964. Withdrawal came in mid-March 1967 and thence to Cashmore's Newport where it was scrapped in March 1968.
And now for something completely different. This is "Old Oak Common . March 1964." with first generation Castle 4088, Dartmouth Castle. This had been stored at Swindon in 1962 but was reinstated to St Phillips Marsh in November 1963. At the time of this photo it had only a couple of months to go, being withdrawn in May 1964. It went to Cohen's Morriston where it met it's end in September the same year.
Brian
