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steve1

Western Thunderer
Would a range TT RTR of U.K. prototypes push British HO even further out to the margins?

steve
 

MartinWales

Western Thunderer
I see TT as an ideal solution for those strapped for space and yet it is big enough to actually model and see the the detail. Even when I had normal good eyesight, N gauge was too twee for my liking.

Thinking in terms of a minimal layout on a plank and knowing Peco are producing GWR prototypes, then a Collett 0-4-2T, auto coach and Toad would make a fine start. Hopefully, some wagons kits would follow.
Larry

The 3mm Society has commissioned over 50 kits from Parkside Dundas alone over the years.

Indeed if you fancy a varigated lot of kits for a GWR BLT I may be able to help you out, having acquired a collection in an estate sale earlier this year
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
Would a range TT RTR of U.K. prototypes push British HO even further out to the margins?

steve
Having dabbled in British HO myself, many years ago now, I happened to have a look on the British 1:87 website recently.
Nothing much seemed to have changed in the intervening time. I have to ask, in reality how much further out on the margins can it go??? :confused: ;)
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
but I'm in my fifties and wasn't taught imperial at school, so am metric in everything but pints
Interesting as I'm also in my fifties and was taught some Imperial at school, and how fractions worked. However I've never known how to work in decimal fractions of an inch, like the Americans do.
Years later, as an HGV Driver we were under EU rules so worked in Kilometers, and of course metric tonnes & kg for weight.
But for length measurements I mostly work in Imperial - I cannot visualise a layout's size at all when it's given in metric!
I suspect that my age group is the last to talk of, and use the phrase "Old Money". I was very young when full decimalisation started, but all my toys & books had two prices on them, & of course older relatives & neighbours still talked in Old Money - "here's two bob for you", when Grandad gave me a '10 new pence' coin, so I've some idea what it was all about.
 

Neil

Western Thunderer
..... I'm in my fifties and wasn't taught imperial at school, so am metric in everything but pints. .....

That's interesting, I'm in my sixties and was taught both. I think the current wider debate about a return to imperial measurements is just nonsensical guff. We currently operate with a glorious mix of metric and imperial; pints. miles per hour, eight by four sheets of ply (yes I know websites all use the metric equivalent but my local builders merchants are happy with 8X4 or 2X1) kilos and petrol in litres. When I check my BMI (oh dear) I enter my height in feet and inches and weight in kilos. In theory this is an awful mess but it seems to work and as we know, if it aint broke ....
 

simond

Western Thunderer
Personally, I'd say that I have to work out what 1/10th of an inch looks like by going to my nearest ruler.

it looks just like 2.54mm. :)

in my world, both systems are necessary, lots of electronics components are based on decimal inch, but all our mechanical components are fully metric, so conversion is common.

in light of Government initiatives, I’m taking my motorbike in to have the speedo recalibrated in furlongs per fortnight.
 

Firehead

Member
That's interesting, I'm in my sixties and was taught both. I think the current wider debate about a return to imperial measurements is just nonsensical guff. We currently operate with a glorious mix of metric and imperial; pints. miles per hour, eight by four sheets of ply (yes I know websites all use the metric equivalent but my local builders merchants are happy with 8X4 or 2X1) kilos and petrol in litres. When I check my BMI (oh dear) I enter my height in feet and inches and weight in kilos. In theory this is an awful mess but it seems to work and as we know, if it aint broke ....

That reminds me of a conversation I had in a now closed hardware shop in Bolton, when I was buying some plywood for a layout.

Me: I'd like to buy some 1/4" ply please.
Shopkeeper: I'm sorry sir, we don't sell it in imperial sizes, the nearest is 6mm ply.
Me: OK, I'll have some 6mm ply. What size are the sheets?
Shopkeeper: 4 foot by 2 foot, sir.

I just about managed to keep a straight face.
 

Marc Dobson

Western Thunderer
Imperial metric is found in places you would never think, and not only in this country. The French navy 533mm torpedoes for those who haven't got a calculator handy that is bang on 21inches. The US have 155mm howitzers or 6inches. The standard NATO bullet sizes are 5.62 or 7.62 orif you like it in inches 0.300 and 0.303.

Back to model railways what other scales could make use of the new track?
Marc
 

Richard Gawler

Western Thunderer
I think this scale will be marvellous for folk wanting to model the modern railway in a modern house and make more models than they currently can in N gauge. The models will have a bit more substance than the smaller scale and should be able to run well.

But . . . I do hope Peco can set out the wheel standards they expect models and modellers to use. These may well be whatever the Continental RTR manufacturers are already using. When we know these will will know whether steam ouline is possible. There are drawings of a Dean Goods in the July RM but we need wheel standards before we know whether steam locos with splashers are practical. The gauge is almost exactly to scale, and this is not a 'Proto' system.
 

MoatLane

Member
Where are they now, the TT Pannier, 22xx and Dean Goods I cobbled together in about 1968? GEM whitemetal bodies, Triang 0-6-0 chassis. I sold the lot for £25.
 

Mike W

Western Thunderer
I'm in my mid-sixties so school was too long ago to remember! But having made models from before I was a teenager using drawings that were 1 1/2in to a foot or 1in, and the models 4mm or 7mm, one has to switch from one to the other and back. Modelling is educational for young people in so many ways. Maybe model railways should be in the curriculum?

Mike
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Ah, but will it true 1/120 scale to follow Peco's intentions........

and not a 3mm 1/100 bodge forced by the 3mm peeps.....
 

allegheny1600

Western Thunderer
Hooray!
It didn’t really matter to me what the first models ere going to be - I’ve already decided that this is where I want to take my modelling! Thanks Heljan.
I love H0 and always will but attempting to model British outline in H0 has always been “difficult“ (not impossible, just difficult!). I won’t cease my H0 efforts for sure but it will be so very nice to simply run something British with the correct scale/gauge combination.
So for me, H0 = modelling, TT = playing (Operating)
Cheers,
John
 
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