Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Worth noting the difference in scale there; the 9f is at 1:43.something, the German locos at 1:45. In reality the 9f is tiny when compared to any of the German Einheitsloks (Standard locos). The comparison stands up with HO BR44 vs 00 9f, despite the smaller scale the 44 is still a bigger model.
I'm familiar with KM1 stuff, having seen it at a number of German shows over the years. It is resolutely splendid for sure, but with no garden, and a lot of time, effort and cash invested in 1:87, I'll stick with what I've got!
Steph
I'm familiar with KM1 stuff, having seen it at a number of German shows over the years. It is resolutely splendid for sure, but with no garden, and a lot of time, effort and cash invested in 1:87, I'll stick with what I've got!
Steph
demu1037
Western Thunderer
Hi Steph,
Its (I think) a Kiss one, they ARE 1:43
See (not Richard as they also do G1) http://www.kiss-modellbahnen.de/
Andy
Its (I think) a Kiss one, they ARE 1:43
See (not Richard as they also do G1) http://www.kiss-modellbahnen.de/
Andy
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Andy,
Aah, so more manufacturers are moving away from 1:45, it'd be nice if MOROP could sort out the scale of European 0. But I do understand the problem, we've got the same issue with track gauges with British 0.
And the thought of a Scale7 BR44 strikes me as being rather fun!
Steph
Aah, so more manufacturers are moving away from 1:45, it'd be nice if MOROP could sort out the scale of European 0. But I do understand the problem, we've got the same issue with track gauges with British 0.
And the thought of a Scale7 BR44 strikes me as being rather fun!
Steph
Scanlon
Western Thunderer
Hello Simon,
The KM1 models do have comprehensive smoke effects. The locos "puff" in accordance with crank positions and drain cocks work.
Roger
Richard Spoors
Western Thunderer
For the keen German G1 enthusiasts, KM1 are holding their annual "Sommerfest" next weekend at their offices in Lauingen, in southern Germany. I'm going over with my finesclale class 94 to get its smoke unit repaired. The link is http://www.km-1.de/html/km1_sommerfest.html
Cheers
Richard
Cheers
Richard
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Hi
Having had a crash course on the BR 44s, I've made a list of the things I want to do. First off is the footboards either side of the steam dome. The original had two plastic supports on each of 2 plastic footboards. All I had on my model was two of the supports on one side. Clearly they were vulnerable, so as I couldn't get spares from Markin, I elected to make my own from metal.
I was able to extract the plastic supports and fabricate brass replacements.
The footboards were made from chequer plate with brass angle round the outside and the supports soldered to the rear in the correct locations so as to engage with the holes in the boiler. I had to drill these out to get out the plastic stubs that had broken off. It was easy enough to feel my way witha hand drill, as I didn't want to put a hole in the boiler proper
And one side clipped in place.
Now, a bit of assistance please.
Can anyone with experience of live steam advise me what glues to use that will be resistant to heat. In particular, I may have some things to glue to the cylinder, and I assume that will get quite hot!
Cheers
Richard
Having had a crash course on the BR 44s, I've made a list of the things I want to do. First off is the footboards either side of the steam dome. The original had two plastic supports on each of 2 plastic footboards. All I had on my model was two of the supports on one side. Clearly they were vulnerable, so as I couldn't get spares from Markin, I elected to make my own from metal.
I was able to extract the plastic supports and fabricate brass replacements.
The footboards were made from chequer plate with brass angle round the outside and the supports soldered to the rear in the correct locations so as to engage with the holes in the boiler. I had to drill these out to get out the plastic stubs that had broken off. It was easy enough to feel my way witha hand drill, as I didn't want to put a hole in the boiler proper
And one side clipped in place.
Now, a bit of assistance please.
Can anyone with experience of live steam advise me what glues to use that will be resistant to heat. In particular, I may have some things to glue to the cylinder, and I assume that will get quite hot!
Cheers
Richard
Richard Spoors
Western Thunderer
Richard, this site http://wilgro.de/index.php/bauteile-fur-lokomotiven.html may be able to help you with any more difficult parts. Wilfried Gross owned the company Wilgro, but died (sadly at his workbench) 3 years ago. His business and stock of parts was bought by the live steam gauge 1 company Wyko www.wyko-echtdampf.de
Cheers
Richard
Cheers
Richard
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Richard,
You might be surprised, but even the chequerplate and fittings change depending upon whether it's DRG, DR or DB...
Steph
You might be surprised, but even the chequerplate and fittings change depending upon whether it's DRG, DR or DB...
Steph
Locomodels
Western Thunderer
OK. Now we go from the sublime to the dericulous.
My only excuse is that this is the only German loco that I have, and I thought that it might bring some levity to the posts.
One very small Fleichmann N gauge loco. Only about 140mm over the buffers.
My only excuse is that this is the only German loco that I have, and I thought that it might bring some levity to the posts.
One very small Fleichmann N gauge loco. Only about 140mm over the buffers.
Steve Cook
Flying Squad
Saw this on Saturday and thought of you chaps, I believe its an Accucraft BR45 and it ran very well.
As for glues that will survive on a cylinder cover Richard, I genuinely don't know. Araldite has failed on my Castle and that is just for holding the top of one window frame against the cab front sheet. I'd be tempted to run it and check how hot the covers get before deciding on a glue, if they are plastic you may find they insulate enough to open up the options.
What stock are you tempted with....
Steve
As for glues that will survive on a cylinder cover Richard, I genuinely don't know. Araldite has failed on my Castle and that is just for holding the top of one window frame against the cab front sheet. I'd be tempted to run it and check how hot the covers get before deciding on a glue, if they are plastic you may find they insulate enough to open up the options.
What stock are you tempted with....
Steve
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Hi Steve,
That acucraft BR45 looks lovely, though I must admit my preference is for the 2-8-2 BR41 rather than the 2-10-2.
As for stock, I seem to have 2 choices; the first is for a block working of hoppers which would look fantastic. I come up with a problem here in that the most appropriate are no longer in production, so it means scouring the second hand markets and German Ebay - an enjoyable experience but an exercise in translation. The second, and probably more likely is a mixed goods, rather like that shown in your picture, but I don't have the resources to rush into buying an expensive goods train, not without parting with some of my 7mm stockpile. So I shall work on tinkering with my BR44 and getting that running before summer's out. Some replacement bits should arrive later, including some complete plastic cylinders from the electric version. It is bits from this that I want to glue to my unrealistic cylinders.
Richard
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Hi,
The part I was least looking forward to building was the front footstep. Because I was retaining the one I had, I had to match it exactly with my scratchbuild, including the 2 mounting points on the underside of the buffer beam.
I more or less managed it, and it plugs in in the right place nice and securely.
I have ordered some celly paint in a rattle can mixed to German chassis red - RAL 3002 Karminrot (Carmine Red), and I shall paint it before gluing it in place.
The pictures of the model show the deficiencies in the look of the cylinders, and I am kicking round what I can do to make them better. I do have plastic cylinders from the electric version courtesy of Marklin's spares department, but unfortunately, the tail rod cover was missing from one.
Cheers,
Richard
The part I was least looking forward to building was the front footstep. Because I was retaining the one I had, I had to match it exactly with my scratchbuild, including the 2 mounting points on the underside of the buffer beam.
I more or less managed it, and it plugs in in the right place nice and securely.
I have ordered some celly paint in a rattle can mixed to German chassis red - RAL 3002 Karminrot (Carmine Red), and I shall paint it before gluing it in place.
The pictures of the model show the deficiencies in the look of the cylinders, and I am kicking round what I can do to make them better. I do have plastic cylinders from the electric version courtesy of Marklin's spares department, but unfortunately, the tail rod cover was missing from one.
Cheers,
Richard
mickoo
Western Thunderer
So nice, it shows the plastic one up, g'on you know you need two 
For some seriously inspirational Spur 1 stuff visit here http://becasse-weathering.blogspot.co.uk/
Don't blame me if you come away either thoroughly depressed or ravaging the house for stuff to sell to have one.
Nice tip for the RAL red, been looking for that colour for a few weeks now, just need to find the diesel red, turquoise and cream, electric blue and green, TEE red and cream RAL numbers.....after my CSX projects of course
For some seriously inspirational Spur 1 stuff visit here http://becasse-weathering.blogspot.co.uk/
Don't blame me if you come away either thoroughly depressed or ravaging the house for stuff to sell to have one.
Nice tip for the RAL red, been looking for that colour for a few weeks now, just need to find the diesel red, turquoise and cream, electric blue and green, TEE red and cream RAL numbers.....after my CSX projects of course
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
If you're content to use enamel paint, Revell offer it as a standard colour. It works pretty well through an airbrush or normal sable paintbrush as these photos of randomly-pleasing items of my P87 stock are trying to show:
Steph
Steph
Dikitriki
Flying Squad
Hi Mick,
Thanks for the link, it is seriously inspirational. I really want to have a go in similar vein on my 44. The only think holding me back is the effect that steaming it will have on any weathering - ie, would I be wasting my time?
I'm never depressed seeing stuff like this, I regard it as an opportunity to raise my personal bar. You're right though, a major sale is coming up
Cheers.
Richard