7mm On Heather's workbench - a trio of JLTRT Mk2s
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Bob Reid
Western Thunderer
2d's onwards Graham......
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
That is very useful. Very useful indeed. (Hits Print.)
Aside from the headrest "wings" on show there, the kit seats are close enough. Not sure how I'm going to reproduce the check pattern, mind.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Bob
When was that taken and what service is it, these are supposed to be for Newcastle Liverpool set in 1981.
Richard
When was that taken and what service is it, these are supposed to be for Newcastle Liverpool set in 1981.
Richard
marsa69
Western Thunderer
That is very useful. Very useful indeed. (Hits Print.)
Aside from the headrest "wings" on show there, the kit seats are close enough. Not sure how I'm going to reproduce the check pattern, mind.
Dolls house fabric?
Bob Reid
Western Thunderer
Heather, you could spray the lighter colour through a mesh over the darker background. I have done it for the Mk2f's but the pattern was somewhat easier!
Since this was taken I bit the bullet and split the 4-seats into two pairs more correct for the 2f's without the centre panel....
Bob.
Since this was taken I bit the bullet and split the 4-seats into two pairs more correct for the 2f's without the centre panel....
Bob.
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
That's a thought. Bearing in mind it only needs to be an impression of a pattern, rather than a truly exact reproduction at scale, I may experiment with dry brushing first. A nice wide flat brush may do the trick.
Setting up for spraying is a palaver round here, as Best Beloved won't let me do it in the house! Although our loft workshop is insulated and fitted out, it isn't heated, which makes for iffy spraying at the best of times.
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
marsa69
Western Thunderer
I'm not sure I like the idea of upholstering 166 7mm scale seats!
You could always contract the job out
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Bob
You might be able to help us with this. We want to get some transfers made up for the lettering on the back of the coaches and the side panels near the doors, do you know what the words actually say ?
You might be able to help us with this. We want to get some transfers made up for the lettering on the back of the coaches and the side panels near the doors, do you know what the words actually say ?
Bob Reid
Western Thunderer
There was a "standard" line by line sequence - though individual works seemed to vary from the script quite frequently! Basically it should (below the vehicle type) give the S.P. (next Shopping proposal) Date, and below that the last 4? works overhauls - each having the type of overhaul C1-C3 usually, the date completed i.e. nn-dd/yy, and the works done at by the works code. I've a generic drawing showing the pattern somewhere for Mk2's which I'll dig out.
Those are PPM (Planned Preventatiive Maintenance) panels rather crudely stencilled on the side - they were (relatively short lived) and crudely stencilled on by some of the Regional M&EE's giving various exam dates etc. I've no idea (at least I can't remember) what one would typically show!
I'll come back with the end details - soon!
Bob.
Those are PPM (Planned Preventatiive Maintenance) panels rather crudely stencilled on the side - they were (relatively short lived) and crudely stencilled on by some of the Regional M&EE's giving various exam dates etc. I've no idea (at least I can't remember) what one would typically show!
I'll come back with the end details - soon!
Bob.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Thanks Bob, really appreciate that.
Richard
Richard
Bob Reid
Western Thunderer
Hi Richard,
It's not the drawing I was expecting to find however I'll include for completeness. This was the "suggested" layout (post 85') for a DBSO - which as I said varied quite a bit from works to works.....
I'll keep an eye out for the other drawings....
A small extract from a Flickr photo - shows the earlier but similar arrangement;
Bob.
It's not the drawing I was expecting to find however I'll include for completeness. This was the "suggested" layout (post 85') for a DBSO - which as I said varied quite a bit from works to works.....
I'll keep an eye out for the other drawings....
A small extract from a Flickr photo - shows the earlier but similar arrangement;
Bob.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Thanks Bob
Thats really helpful.
Richard
Thats really helpful.
Richard
tomstaf
Western Thunderer
That is very useful. Very useful indeed. (Hits Print.)
Aside from the headrest "wings" on show there, the kit seats are close enough. Not sure how I'm going to reproduce the check pattern, mind.
Simples Heather,
Spray the seat all over blue. Then buy some etched mesh pattern like this to use as a paint mask over the top of the dark blue. Spray black and then you have it with prototypical pattern. HTH
Cheers
Tom
EDIT - WHOOPS JUST NOTICED BOB ALREAD POSTED THIS IDEA. NOTE TO SELF - MUST READ TO END OF THREAD BEFORE POSTING
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
I know. I try to hide it most of the time.
Based on Bob's earlier interior shot, I'm currently experimenting with painting the seats the lighter colour first for the check lines, then using the mask to apply the dark blue for the squares. It sort of works, but my impatience got the better of me. Must let paint dry thoroughly before overpainting!
I have to remember that at best I'm aiming for an impression of the pattern, as a true scale replica is a) all but impossible and b) all but invisible once within the bodyshell.
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
Undoubtedly true.
Some years back I was allowed to photograph a roll of new moquette which was destined for the GWR Steam Railmotor. The cloth is to the "White Star" pattern and features a white pattern on a chocolate background. The photo looked reasonable so I scaled the image for 7mm and sent the result to the printer. Even at best quality print option the colour on the paper was..... yellow-green sludge
. Got to prove something, not sure what though .regards, Graham
warren haywood
Western Thunderer
One way of painting seats i have found, although not perfect, is to spray the base colour then using some fine mesh as a mask shaped over the seat, spray the patern colour. The result is a fine chequered appearance. Once inside the coach they look the part.
Warren
Warren
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Cheers Warren! That's what everyone has suggested so far.
My problems are I don't have a dedicated spraybooth area (despite numerous attempts to persuade Best Beloved it would be a good idea), and I dislike setting things up to spray such small items. While it may be quicker overall, it's a lot of faff and mess when drybrushing is more therapeutic in my view.