Prototype A Wagon Photo

AJC

AJC

Western Thunderer
Thanks Brian - yes, the picture is useful - the ex-GW bogie bolster A/Macaw H dia. J25 is interesting because it must be only relatively recently repainted (the style of tare number suggests this, with its subscript 't', only seen from the mid-60s, as does the 'black-ness'of the running gear) and out of service. It may well have still been in internal use, judging by the load. This one was still in departmental service, 15 years later, was from the same lot, 1014, of 1927:

GWR Bolster wagons Bogie Bolster A, Bogie Bolster B, Bogie Bolster C | LDW107178 Bogie Bolster C @ Tinsley 83-10-01 � Paul Bartlett w

The wooden-framed open certainly is (or has been) in internal use as denoted by the cross; it's probably ex-LMS. The vehicle in the middle is the youngest of the three, being a BR-built steel medfit. This one, like most of that fleet, has ended up in the service of the engineers - the 'D' applied in front of the number can be made out as can the E denoting engineers' use. Unfortunately, the second letter, denoting the region, isn't... The transfer from traffic use also occasioned the triangle painted on the bodyside. These were quite common on ex-traffic types and were usually green, as this one might be even if it does look yellow.

See this picture from @hrmspaul by way of comparison:

BR 13ton steel bodied Medfit open (as used by engineers) ZAV ZVV ZAO ZDO | DB458755_diag_1-019__m_

Adam
 
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Scale7JB

Scale7JB

Western Thunderer
Do I recall seeing a map of the Barry scrapyard showing all the positions of the locos that were there?

JB.
 
oldravendale

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
That's quite possible. However, it would only be correct for a particular date as the locos were shunted around as the preservation movement got in to gear and various locos were moved out.

Which leads to another question - how was this achieved, as I don't remember Woodhams having a service loco?

Brian
 
West Junction

West Junction

Western Thunderer
Photograph of a PO wagon taken in about 1964 by my brother near West Drayton station middlesex. What caught my interest was the curved bottom to the sides. Written on the side is Empty to Frome WR

PO wagon.jpg
 
Jon Gwinnett

Jon Gwinnett

Western Thunderer
Don't think that's a PO, more likely an ex NE hopper, I think Geoff Kent built one in his Wild Swan books, and David Geen did a kit?
 
AJC

AJC

Western Thunderer
Jon Gwinnett said:
Don't think that's a PO, more likely an ex NE hopper, I think Geoff Kent built one in his Wild Swan books, and David Geen did a kit?
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Yes, right on all counts John. That's definitely an LNER-built 13 ton diagram 137 hopper (branded 'Empty to Frome' - almost certainly for Mendip limestone). That said it seems to be in use for sand(?) here - note all the other LNE type wooden hoppers in the background, one of them sheeted.

As ever, @hrmspaul can provide suitable illustrations. A copy of the weight diagram here: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnermineral/h9d973fa#h9d973fa

A picture of one in internal NCB use here:

LNER Wood & steel Minerals, wooden hoppers, | E273510=BR363

It's a nice line up: the vehicle nearest the camera, only partially visible, seems to be and LNER diagram 193 while furthest from the camera is one of these:

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnermineral/h9d973fa#h8e8d503

Also seen here, ex-works from Chas Roberts: HMRS: Information on photograph<br>reference number: AAS715

Adam
 
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