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Clive

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Hi All

Over the years I have been planning a model of Kings Cross Bottom Shed/ Passenger Loco ever since the Peter Kazmierczak's plan appeared in Model Railway Constructor , late 70s. last year I finalised my idea, again. The concept is that the viewer is on the end of platform 10 watching the loco movements and the workings of the suburban station. From my tainspotting days the view from the end of platform 10 towards the suburban platforms was limited by the trainshed over 11, 12 and 13 so not too much of the suburban side of the Cross needs to be modelled. To get to the suburban platforms the trains entered the station area through the Up Relief tunnel.

Loco movements from the mianline station to and from the shed involved reversing in the Down Main tunnels, so locos on the model would use these as the fiddle yard.

On my plan the points with a red dot are non working.
Bottom Shed WT.pngA BIG THANK YOU to Phil for his plans they will help me a lot.

Yours

Clive

PS, it will be in 4mm...OO :thumbs:
 

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Colin M

Colin M

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Clive said:
Hi All

The concept is that the viewer is on the end of platform 10 watching the loco movements and the workings of the suburban station.

PS, it will be in 4mm...OO :thumbs:
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Clive,

Great idea for a different viewing perspective. If you can support your boards at a high level, the viewing angle will help support the "spotter's view" illusion.

I wondering if 9' is a bit tight for space, even in 4mm?

Nice one... I'm looking forward to seeing this progress.

Colin
 
Phill Dyson

Phill Dyson

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Clive said:
Hi All

. The concept is that the viewer is on the end of platform 10 watching the loco movements and the workings of the suburban station. From my tainspotting days the view from the end of platform 10 towards the suburban platforms was limited by the trainshed over 11, 12 and 13 so not too much of the suburban side of the Cross needs to be modelled. To get to the suburban platforms the trains entered the station area through the Up Relief tunnel.

Loco movements from the mianline station to and from the shed involved reversing in the Down Main tunnels, so locos on the model would use these as the fiddle yard.
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That would be very visually interesting with quite high baseboards & platform 10 on the facing edge of the boards IMO, you would then view the layout as we all did at Kings Cross :cool:

A couple of pics from my 1976 Rail Rover :)...........

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Sorry about the rubbish quality (Kodak Instamatic) :oops::D

What period are you planning to model it ?

Phill :)
 
Phill Dyson

Phill Dyson

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Colin M said:
Clive,

Great idea for a different viewing perspective. If you can support your boards at a high level, the viewing angle will help support the "spotter's view" illusion.
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Great minds think alike :D...........you were posting while I was digging out my dodgy slide scans :)
 
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Clive

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Colin M said:
Clive,

Great idea for a different viewing perspective. If you can support your boards at a high level, the viewing angle will help support the "spotter's view" illusion.

I wondering if 9' is a bit tight for space, even in 4mm?

Nice one... I'm looking forward to seeing this progress.

Colin
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Hi Colin

To answer your question about the length, 9 ft is scale length. From Gas Works Tunnel to the mainline train shed is only 8ft 6ins in 1/76th scale. The problem with building the whole station in that length of 8ft 6ins the track work goes from a little over 2ft at the tunnel end to 8ft 6ins wide from the tunnel on the Moorgate end of the York Road platform over to the siding alongside the Culross Buildings in the Milk Yard.

Yours

Clive
 
Colin M

Colin M

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If I remember right, there used to be a good model shop at the top of York Way, just across the road from the plat 1 exit.

And a visit to the greasiest spoon in London, a bit further down York Way, towards the gas cylinders topped off the visit!

Colin
 
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Clive

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Phill Dyson said:
That would be very visually interesting with quite high baseboards & platform 10 on the facing edge of the boards IMO, you would then view the layout as we all did at Kings Cross :cool:

Sorry about the rubbish quality (Kodak Instamatic) :oops::D

What period are you planning to model it ?

Phill :)
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Hi Phil

High baseboards would be a requirement to try and get that feeling of being a part of the platform 10* posse.

I intend to model it from when I first trainspotted there in the mid to late 60s, the green days. Possibly with the turntable still in place.

As for the photos, any showing Pasenger Loco are a help.

Yours

Clive

* or the Platform 8 flock in the 1970's
 
Jordan

Jordan

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Colin M said:
If I remember right, there used to be a good model shop at the top of York Way, just across the road from the plat 1 exit.

And a visit to the greasiest spoon in London, a bit further down York Way, towards the gas cylinders topped off the visit!
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"Kings Cross Models" IIRC...? They used to do etched nameplates, except they didn't cut them to shape. I had great 'fun' as a youngster with the set I bought from there for my Lima 55 006...:mad: :headbang:

..and never mind greasy spoons... some bright spark we knew at the time, when he heard I wanted to go to King's Cross, said "Oh, where all the Prostitutes are!" ... my mom went mad!! I wasn't even 10 at the time:oops: . She always did have an overactive imagination...:rolleyes:
 
Osgood

Osgood

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I bet the greasy spoon had nothing on the Paradise Cafe in Bristol - the 'chef' wore wellies......:eek:
 
BrushType4

BrushType4

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I've been trying to draw my plans up in Templot. I know its me, but I'm struggling to get my head around it at the moment. :mad: :headbang:
 
40126

40126

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Jordan said:
Just for a minute I thought this was Lancer posting..... :D :)) :D ;)
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No not lancer, I darent ask him to come out all day !!. Look what he's like after a night in telford :))

I had a good 10 hr drinking session for St George, & no hangover.

Steve :cool:
 
BrushType4

BrushType4

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Clive said:
The concept is that the viewer is on the end of platform 10 watching the loco movements and the workings of the suburban station. From my tainspotting days the view from the end of platform 10 towards the suburban platforms was limited by the trainshed over 11, 12 and 13 so not too much of the suburban side of the Cross needs to be modelled. To get to the suburban platforms the trains entered the station area through the Up Relief tunnel.

Loco movements from the mianline station to and from the shed involved reversing in the Down Main tunnels, so locos on the model would use these as the fiddle yard.
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Clive, I hope you don't mind but that's an excellent idea that I may 'borrow'. :D

I notice on your plans you've got the narrow gauge track used for moving small trucks of coal around. Will you be modelling that aspect too?
 
mickoo

mickoo

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Look at that bogie swing on the class 40 in the back ground, the buffer is well clear of the nose, glad I added all that buffer beam deck and pipework into mine now LOL.

Note also the middle brush type 4 radiators, not the Sereck type but original grill type, later replaced with the Sereck motor operated slated type.
 
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