G3 3 plank dropside wagon
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jamiepage
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Jon,
Sorry if I have misled you. The references I have all suggest post 1880 two iron blocks on one side for these wagons- and no doubt embellished over the years with various forms of either side arrangements.
The same references confirm some use of wooden blocks before that; and Essery's drawing, at least, shows they too acted on both axles, one side.
Not to say there weren't any fitted with a single brake block, but I haven't found any reference.
Andy?!
Yours
Jamie
Sorry if I have misled you. The references I have all suggest post 1880 two iron blocks on one side for these wagons- and no doubt embellished over the years with various forms of either side arrangements.
The same references confirm some use of wooden blocks before that; and Essery's drawing, at least, shows they too acted on both axles, one side.
Not to say there weren't any fitted with a single brake block, but I haven't found any reference.
Andy?!
Yours
Jamie
AndyB
Western Thunderer
I'm supposed to be trying to get the etch artwork done, not looking up yet more drawing questions! 
But you lot know I can't resist....
It seems strange that Essery's Figure 31 (in Midland Wagons vol 1) is very true to MR drawing number 10 yet he makes no mention of that number in the text (or not that I've found).
Dating from January 1874, it shows two wooden brake blocks acting on both axles on one side of the wagon. I don't believe the MR ever built wagons with a single wooden brake block, but they did inherit some from their acquired constituents, as shown in plates 32 & 33.
There are a few, very subtle, differences in the ironwork between the first and subsequent drawings for these wagons, but if 1874 is early enough for you, Jon, then this casting set will do you fine.
Andy
But you lot know I can't resist....
It seems strange that Essery's Figure 31 (in Midland Wagons vol 1) is very true to MR drawing number 10 yet he makes no mention of that number in the text (or not that I've found).
Dating from January 1874, it shows two wooden brake blocks acting on both axles on one side of the wagon. I don't believe the MR ever built wagons with a single wooden brake block, but they did inherit some from their acquired constituents, as shown in plates 32 & 33.
There are a few, very subtle, differences in the ironwork between the first and subsequent drawings for these wagons, but if 1874 is early enough for you, Jon, then this casting set will do you fine.
Andy
Jon Nazareth
Western Thunderer
Andy
Thank you for that and 1874 is perfect.
Jon
Thank you for that and 1874 is perfect.
Jon
AndyB
Western Thunderer
Two troubles I have doing etch artwork:
1) I hate leaving empty space
2) When researching parts on original drawings and on photos, I keep find more small details that just demand to be modelled.
And so it was when doing the bits mentioned above for Mike (now delivered, I'm pleased to say).
Some D305 wagons were fitted with twin 'Monarch' door controllers - similar to the single one in this picture.
So here is the etch:
I didn't know if would actually be buildable, but here is the first one (temporarily shown on a Bachmann wagon conversion for illustration, with temporary pivots).
Only 3 more to put together now!
Andy
1) I hate leaving empty space
2) When researching parts on original drawings and on photos, I keep find more small details that just demand to be modelled.
And so it was when doing the bits mentioned above for Mike (now delivered, I'm pleased to say).
Some D305 wagons were fitted with twin 'Monarch' door controllers - similar to the single one in this picture.
So here is the etch:
I didn't know if would actually be buildable, but here is the first one (temporarily shown on a Bachmann wagon conversion for illustration, with temporary pivots).
Only 3 more to put together now!
Andy
Spitfire2865
Western Thunderer
That etch looks very good. Though Im struggling to figure out how it actually worked.
AndyB
Western Thunderer
Top marks to Mike!
This is taken from the drawing of the single one. It doesn't say what the spring force is, but it is made from 1/2" x 1 1/4" section.
The twin ones were slightly different in dimensions and shape of the connecting bars.
Mods - sorry about the file size. I don't know how to reduce these drawing scans any further without making them illegible.
Andy
geoff_nicholls
Western Thunderer
Your etch seems identical to the one used by the Great Eastern on their D17 5 plank open wagons
https://basilicafields.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/dia-17-no-29279.jpg
https://basilicafields.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/dia-17-no-29279.jpg
Spitfire2865
Western Thunderer
I can imagine that mechanism would see quite a beating, especially putting a good bit of bending force on that plate.
Might have to build a wagon with that system just to make it work.
AndyB
Western Thunderer
I have a few sets in stock, and I have now completed the instructions. I'll p.m. you when I've worked out the price.
Andy
