TheSnapper
Western Thunderer
Anyone heard any news about the Little Loco Company Class 50?
Tim
Tim
Release put back due to problems and delays to the Rustons which are ahead in the queue I believe. After the Rustons
come the class 22s and then the 50s. Heljan getting theirs out first won't help their sales I suspect if indeed Heljan do get
theirs out first!
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
I must admit, that does look good. I'm not convinced they've got the bogies quite right at the moment, but that may be down to lighting and camera angles.
I'll watch with interest to see whether any more photos come to light...
Steph
I'll watch with interest to see whether any more photos come to light...
Steph
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Mick,
They've carried variants of BR blue with yellow ends in preservation and I recall the first couple of refurbished locos were released to traffic in that condition.
Steph
They've carried variants of BR blue with yellow ends in preservation and I recall the first couple of refurbished locos were released to traffic in that condition.
Steph
mickoo
Western Thunderer
Cheers, wasn't 100% sure when the refurbished units came on line with respect to liveries. It was all such a long time ago. The antenna on the headcode box would have to go though.
Shouldn't be too hard to back date with the roof vents over the dynamic brake grid and I think the refurbs had an extra vent on the bodyside as well, or it was removed in the refurb.
Shouldn't be too hard to back date with the roof vents over the dynamic brake grid and I think the refurbs had an extra vent on the bodyside as well, or it was removed in the refurb.
Jim smith-wright
Western Thunderer
As I mentioned on the Heljan page (where the same images appeared a few days ago) I’m far from convinced by the top of the nose and the shape of the windscreens.
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Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Jim,
Which Heljan page? Where? It'd be interesting to catch up with what people think.
Steph
Which Heljan page? Where? It'd be interesting to catch up with what people think.
Steph
BrushType4
Western Thunderer
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Aah, right. Well, that's that then... 
Steph
Steph
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
......also available in original 1970's colours
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
I'd agree. The curves on the prototype are much subtler around this area and bottom of the window/nose joint appears too flat. Again the prototype has a pronounced curve when viewed head on.
Jim smith-wright
Western Thunderer
Is the same problem with the Hornby one. It makes you wonder if there are works drawings that are wrong somehow. Lima famously did an exact copy of the roof as per the works drawing but it wasn’t what EE built.
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Jim,
Standard problem with all works drawings - they're 'intent' rather than 'custom and practise'...
It's not helped either that General Arrangement drawings for diesels rarely show the external details of a loco so they need building up from framing drawings and panel outlines. Even then it's tricky to replicate the effect of the 2lb lump hammer when the parts don't quite fit, or the bit that old Fred removed from the panel stamping to get it all to work together.
I'm minded to draw comparison to the EMD F-units. All built to a common set of drawings and parts, yet it's possible to discern repeatable differences between those built at La Grange or at London.
Steph
Standard problem with all works drawings - they're 'intent' rather than 'custom and practise'...
It's not helped either that General Arrangement drawings for diesels rarely show the external details of a loco so they need building up from framing drawings and panel outlines. Even then it's tricky to replicate the effect of the 2lb lump hammer when the parts don't quite fit, or the bit that old Fred removed from the panel stamping to get it all to work together.
I'm minded to draw comparison to the EMD F-units. All built to a common set of drawings and parts, yet it's possible to discern repeatable differences between those built at La Grange or at London.
Steph
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
I'm still not sure that the front of the loco is that bad - the problem is that the camera angle isn't one we'd normally look at the prototype. With the camera lower we might see a view we recognise. With the Fifty Fund involved, one would assume they didn't lack prototype information.
Steph
Steph
There’s a couple more images from the press release Heljan sent me here
Heljan’s O Gauge Class 50
I think (STC), that Heljan are one of the RTR companies that add all the detail components to first Engineering Prototype. You may find there’s some inconsistencies in the detail/variant as ‘all’ the bits have been test fitted for engineering checks.
Anyone interested in the 4mm BR 07, there’s a few pics in the previous posting.
Wordless Wednesday Heljan 07’s (2902 2911)
Heljan’s O Gauge Class 50
I think (STC), that Heljan are one of the RTR companies that add all the detail components to first Engineering Prototype. You may find there’s some inconsistencies in the detail/variant as ‘all’ the bits have been test fitted for engineering checks.
Anyone interested in the 4mm BR 07, there’s a few pics in the previous posting.
Wordless Wednesday Heljan 07’s (2902 2911)