7mm US model dabblings

Big Train James

Western Thunderer
Learn something new everyday. I never realized that the "1W" indicated the wear type. Makes perfect sense now that it's been pointed out to me.:oops: I read on the Amsted site that the single wear wheel was the most common type used versus the double and multi-wear versions. I also have no idea if the same specs apply to loco wheels.

Jim
 

Big Train James

Western Thunderer
Steph,
I've had a more thorough look back through the AAR specs I posted the other day. In case you haven't already discerned it, you should be looking at pages 49 through 54, but in particular page 52 for locomotive wheels. Pages 49 and 51 show the two common types of dishing for wheels. I get the impression that the type on page 51 is the more common type, although to be honest I haven't paid enough attention to prototype wheels to speak empirically one way or the other.

I will tell you from experience developing my 3d model that despite the bounty of dimensions and data points provided in the tread profile drawings, some things still manage to not quite line up. The inflection points don't quite match up, or somehow one tiny segment of a curve will be missing it's radius or a critical dimension to locate its center point. Things to that effect. For the purposes of my 3d model, and quite likely for your purposes as well, the infinitesimal gaps can be closed without detrimental effects.

Regards,
Jim
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Just for Jordan ;)
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I braved the highway bridge at Taft for some roof details, loco is a CW44AH #532

A small sample of some of the photos from today are on my Flickr site, mostly landscape or roster shots, the modellers detail shots I'll process when back home.

Enjoy

Mick D
 

Big Train James

Western Thunderer
About and about today...had a couple of other opportunities for shots but either missed them or conditions weren't cooperating. No ex-SP units today.:( These shots were taken just west of Glenwood Springs. I had hoped to catch this in the Canyon east of Glenwood Springs (the last shot - the train would have been across the river from the highway, behind the trees:rolleyes:) But the train stopped in Glenwood Springs to add distributed power units to the middle of the train, To boot, the sun was most often on the wrong side.
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mickoo

Western Thunderer
Nice, saw some more UP engines the other day, they didn't stand still long enough for detail shots, but the SD40-2 did ;)

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Sadly shooting into the sun for the SD40-2, needs more processing when I get home, or, pick it off in the afternoon if it's still there this week, from what I can gather they usually stable locos here at Mulberry Yard.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
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The other 120 or so (plus other cars...let alone the 200+ SD70M detail shots...just breezed the 2500 shots target this morning, about 2-300 will be duplicates or minor angle differences mind) images will have to wait until I get home to process correctly. I'll hit this and several other industries next Sunday and see whats about; it's pretty much open season for walking around, especially if you time it for sun up which is about 07:20, which means an 06:00 alarm call followed by an hours drive in the dark :thumbs:
 
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Big Train James

Western Thunderer
It's exactly the type of information I covet. Especially the section view indicating the underframe construction.

But probably not for £40/$50.:oops::(
 
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mickoo

Western Thunderer
The cyclic US itch has returned and looking through my photos, realized how many I hadn't processed, so, here we go, one day rail fanning in central Florida.

The day starts at 04:00 a quick breakfast and load up the hire car with food and more importantly water...oh and a toilet roll :eek:;) and we're off rolling down the road at 04:30. First stop is Mulberry Yard which is just over 70 miles away, so foot down on the I4 and keeping to the fat side of the speed limits you can just do it in 50 mins if you catch the lights down County Line Road...gotta love the names of their roads :cool:

Sun up is just after 06:00 so you get 30-45 mins of night and dawn shots, this morning we bag a couple UP SD70Ms double heading elephant style.
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There isn't much to dislike about this shot, it's night time, well lit, breaking dawn colours, tank train, UP and SD70M, if I had to order a train for a photo shoot this'd be it, I might ask them to swap out the power for a couple of AC44CWs but I'd take either over the other. The day is already worth the early start.

Before the sun gets too close to the horizon it's back in the car for a quick dash to Vitis, I'd scoped out a place that only gets good light as soon as the sun is up. Back up the county Line road to the I4 and backtrack one junction to pick up the 700 at Lebanon Heights, the 700 is straight, fast, wide open flat and hardly any traffic the 40 miles take 30 minutes and just in time for the sun up at 06:17. It's not along wait before the first train comes off the Lakeland line and joins the S Line at Vitis.
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A monster empty coal train begins the slug up the grade to Clinton Heights about a mile behind me, it's not long nor particularly long, but with 120 hoppers on your tail it'll give the loco a bit of a work out especially as the other two engines in the consist are cut out for this leg. With that one in the bag it's into the car and heading south now along the Plant City leg from Vitis toward Zephyrhills. This is the old ACL line and there used to be a diamond crossing at Zephyrhills where the ACL crossed the SAL, when the SAL and ACL were merged this junction was removed during the line rationalizations and the new SCL took the route from one line north and the other south, the diamond being ripped up a link curve between the two built.

Its only just over 6 miles away to the south so a steady drive down with the odd explore down the odd road here and there for possible photos shoot locations. On arrival it's not long before the first train arrives and by good luck it's heading south into the sun.
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The engines are on the new link curve, the autoracks in the trees at far left are still on the old ACL alignment, the diamond would be about 300 yards to my left rear in the trees. The other reason I wanted to visit Zephyrhills was the old ACL station building and what a stunner, beautifully restored it's a tribute to the staff.
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The ACL main line is just behind me but the sun is getting up and the angles are not conducive to good photos, late afternoon might be better. Anyway, next stop is Plant City, I'd been before (several times) but the weather was crap and today it was nice, so a quite relaxed drive down the Paul-Buchman Highway where it parallels the now called S line but the old SAL line, hopefully pick up a chase but it wasn't to be. There quite a few roads in this area which run parallel with the tracks for miles on end, so pan and pacing shots are pretty easy to do if you have patience waiting for a train....more later.
Setting up at Plant City it isn't long before the first trade turns up, basically there are two parallel lines through downtown Plant City, they come in from the west and on the east side the southerly one makes a 90° turn north and crosses on a flat diamond...and they don't hang around!
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Coming down the S line (old SAL) a mixed manifest sweeps around the 90° curve to head north, it's a 120+ manifest so over a mile long and over 10,000 tons and it's doing a good 40 through the middle of town :thumbs: Sadly the cloud monster decided to rain on my day, fortunately not for long :thumbs:

A short while later another train, this time heading south down the S line and round the curve toward Tampa.
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This time a full loaded coal train, again over a mile long and 120 cars long tips in at roughly 14,000 tons, it ain't stopping! There are no rail greasers here and the squeal of flange on rail is deafening, but it's impressive and it's another in the bag. The A line diamond is just under the first wagon and Plant City depot behind the loco.

It's not long after that the bells start to ring and another S line train makes it's self known, it's about the only regular freight train you can be sure to see each day, the famous CSX juice train, it only stops for crew changes and runs from Tampa to New York every day with fresh juice for the city.
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Up front a virtually brand new GEVE Tier 4, again it isn't hanging around and soon sweeps through town heading north, the juice in these cars will be on peoples breakfast tables tomorrow morning. Sadly the juice train is no more, later that year it went over to a double stack operation and the trusty old reefers were retired, shame as it was impressive and everyone you spoke to rail side were proud of their juice train. Virtually everywhere I stopped town folk would ask if I'd come to see the juice train.

Time to move location and pick up some stuff on the A line, it's only 200 yards away so not much of a trek. you don't get much warning here, speed is 45mph and the crossing bells give you about 45 seconds notice. Almost right off the bat a pair of light engines rip Eastward, probably heading to Winston Yard.
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The diamond is just behind me to the right.

Up in the tower we find another set of light engines swinging off the A line and heading north and up the S line toward Zephryhills and Vitis, these have almost certainly come from Winston Yard.
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These soon clear to be followed by one of the four Amtrak trains that run through this area.

This is the Silver Star and running a little late so not hanging around at all.
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Having bagged the Amtrak thoughts turn to a new location and Wildwood is nearly always good in the afternoons so a quick drive back up the Paul-Buchman highway and well lookee here the light loco set seen earlier is tucked into a siding.
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Looking over my shoulder I can see green lights and the switch is set for the siding and sure enough after I've done a quick U turn the engines are out on the main line, speed is slow to start with and rather than become a mobile chicane I let it get a bit up the line and up to speed before some pacing shots. I nearly missed out as it didn't take long to get up to speed so it was a bit of a dash to catch up.

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Set to auto cruise at 53 mph, window down, camera in crook of arm and just bashed away for the next six miles :thumbs:, just fantastic.

The crew didn't mind at all and we parted with a friendly wave on the out skirts of Plant City as he slowed for the limits.7859b.jpg
Not the best shots in the world but my first chase and panning whilst moving so I'm happy, I was more happy at just listening to those big GE's chug along :cool:

So a quick out and back from Plant City, total of twelve miles and now again, another U turn to head north to Wildwood, normally I'd stop for 30 or so minutes at a few known spots like Vitis, Dade City or Bushnell and there's some cracking locations around Lacoochee I want to explore but those'll be another day. The early start is catching up so it's a nice but brisk drive to Wildwood 65 miles away and I decide to set up camp in the northern burb of Moreland Park......in part 2
 
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mickoo

Western Thunderer
It's not long before the first trade turns up, a pair of light engines out of the yard.
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They pull up right in front of me so it'd be a shame not to take advantage.
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A short while later they get the road and amble off into the distance and then stop with just the tops of the roof showing, a short while later a lot of smoke and back they come heading south on the main going flat out :thumbs:

A short while later a long empty coal train crawls along the siding, though both lines seem to be either a siding or main line depending on the dispatchers whim, the line closest is the lead out of the yard around the corner under the bridge
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This is followed quickly by a mixed manifest which comes to a stand waiting for the line ahead to clear.
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Sure enough running at 60 mph a mixed manifest hammers south, like previous trains it's over 120 cars, 10,000 tons and a mile long.
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A short lull in proceedings follows as the sun begins to settle, eventually toward the very end of the day a double stack heading north hoves into view.
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By now the sun is really low and the shadows long, but there's a big enough gap in the trees to just pick up the engines and highlight them in the evening sun. The train for some reason comes to a complete stand, perhaps a crew change on the other side, that's the local road to and from Wildwood depot behind the train, anyway, plenty of time to waste a few more electrons on some photos.
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Eventually it departs, the lead unit doing all the work, the two trailing units despite being powered take no load.

With the sun finally settled it's time to think about packing up, or staying until full darkness for some night shots at Wildwood, I opted to leave (now sitting here I wish I'd stayed...but it had been a long day) and started to pack up, only to hear a faint call of a Nathan horn, just enough light for one more shot.

Sure enough, 5 minutes later and in near darkness a mixed manifest hammers south at line speed.
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And that was the last train of the day and time to head back home and rather than take the free roads opted for the Florida Turnpike and tolls to make life easier, 52 miles and an hour later I roll onto the drive just before 21:00.

Sixteen hours, just over 260 miles and sixteen trains wasn't a bad day out. I never had any more trips that good, daylight trains are not thick and fast so you have to get lucky and be in the right place at the right time. Most of them are early morning or late afternoon, which makes around midday pretty bloody boring :D

Enjoy

Excuse spelling and grammar, just realized it's taken nearly three hours to write these two up :eek:
 
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Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Excellent photographs Mickoo :thumbs: . Some useful ones of the track as well. More of the same please including the detail shots.

I suspect the crew are used to 'chasers' and are probably more surprised you had a still rather than a video camera ;).
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Dave I took over 3000 photos in 2015 and just under 2000 in 2013, I've probably processed 500 or 600 of those. Granted many are near repeats from a slightly different angle but there must be near a 500 track, industry, infrastructure, switch motors, signal gantries, crossing barriers, de-railers, blah blah shots in that lot somewhere. I didn't spend all my time on class 1 railroads :thumbs:

A manual switch at an industry
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These were taken not ½ mile from the Florida Mall in Sky Lake - Orlando, perfect drop the wife and kids and go explore industrial railroads.

A quick grab of a couple of local industries, I took quite a few to give ideas and inspirations for a short shunting layout / plank etc.
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More in due course.
 
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