JimG
Western Thunderer
Just practicing in case I have to do any later strapping, etc. Just to keep you happy.
Jim.
Wagon Scratchbuilding
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Just practicing in case I have to do any later strapping, etc. Just to keep you happy.
Jim.
JimG
Western Thunderer
Scott,
It wouldn't be too difficult to do the artwork for an etch if we can get the sizes. Would you believe that I dug through all my wagon books and none had any dimensions for platework and strapping - Midland Wagons, LMS Wagons, LNER Wagons and GWR Wagons. So much for being a help to scratch builders.
The main variation I can see is the radius of the semi-circular plate at the top of the W iron - the radius being set by the pitch of the legs of the W iron. The width of the platework seems to be between 2 1/2" and 2 3/4". We could do a selection on one etch.Jim.
S
Simon Dunkley
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I buy Plastruct hex rod, and slice bits off that!
If I am in the right frame of mind, it is quite relaxing.
If I am not, I do something else!
S
Simon Dunkley
Guest
Weren't these sort of things on the old Ambis wagon etch?It wouldn't be too difficult to do the artwork for an etch if we can get the sizes. Would you believe that I dug through all my wagon books and none had any dimensions for platework and strapping - Midland Wagons, LMS Wagons, LNER Wagons and GWR Wagons. So much for being a help to scratch builders.
I presume it could be re-ordered?
ScottW
Western Thunderer
It wouldn't be too difficult to do the artwork for an etch if we can get the sizes. Would you believe that I dug through all my wagon books and none had any dimensions for platework and strapping - Midland Wagons, LMS Wagons, LNER Wagons and GWR Wagons. So much for being a help to scratch builders.
I have e-mailed you a couple of scans taken from a GA drawing of an NBR wagon, almost all the dimensions are stated. The width of the platework isn't stated but I think your right with 2 1/2" / 2 3/4".
Regards,
Scott
JimG
Western Thunderer
Simon,
I could find out from John but I suspect that the takeup might not be enough to justify doing another run at whatever minimum order quantity would be required. Knowing the diverse interests of the membership, I would reckon that a lot of parts wanted will have to be sourced by members doing their own thing and passing extras on to other members who might be interested.
Jim.
I could find out from John but I suspect that the takeup might not be enough to justify doing another run at whatever minimum order quantity would be required. Knowing the diverse interests of the membership, I would reckon that a lot of parts wanted will have to be sourced by members doing their own thing and passing extras on to other members who might be interested.
Jim.
AndyB
Western Thunderer
The Midland GA's do often have section sizes on them, but there were commonly 2 additional drawings for body details and underframe details including strapping, hinges, sometimes axleguards, sometimes bits of brake gear where it was non-standard. I think the problem with many wagon books is that the drawings are often not originals and have to be reduced to such a size that small details such as strapping dimensions would be illegible anyway. The articles in Midland Record (and the Midland Wagon drawings book) do use original drawings, although having compared them with some originals I think some detail is lost during the 'clean-up' of the digitised file.
If anyone wants any details of MR wagons (or early LMS) please send me a PM and I'll see what I've got - the cataloguing of the wagon drawings at the Midland Railway Study Centre (http://www.midlandrailwaystudycentre.org.uk/) is now nearly completed - carriages have a long way to go though.
Andy
JimG
Western Thunderer
Simon,
As a matter of interest, Scott emailed me some extracts of a GA drawing for a NB wagon and all the fixings are shown as hex on this drawing.
Jim.
JimG
Western Thunderer
Simon,
As a matter of interest, Scott emailed me some extracts of a GA drawing for a NB wagon and all the fixings are shown as hex on this drawing.
Jim.
S
Simon Dunkley
Guest
I heard you the first time...!
(No doubt related to the server issue.)
ScottW
Western Thunderer
It's been a while since I last posted any progress with the Caledonian Railway mineral wagons. Since April I have fitted the W-irons, buffers and drawbar hooks to both wagons.
The W-irons are of the rocking type produced by MJT and the wheels by Alan Gibson, both of which are available from the S-Scale Society.
A little bit of tinkering was required to produce suitable Caledonian Railway buffers. The bodies of the buffers are 4mm castings which I bought from the Caley Railway Society a number of years ago, unfortunatly being 4mm the buffer heads were slightly under size for S-Scale. To get around the problem the heads were removed from their respective bodies and the bodies bored out, in the lathe, with a 1.6mm drill. I then took a 4mm Romford buffer, which just happens to have a buffer head suitable for S-Scale, mounted it in the lathe and turned down the body to leave only the head and shank. The head of the Romford buffer was then glued into the body of the white metal casting.
A number of these mineral wagons were converted into coke wagons by adding additional wooden rails to the top of the wagon. As I intended one of my wagons to be portrayed as a coke wagon I added these extra wooden rails using 20thou thick brass section. I chose brass over plastic as I felt the thin plastic sections would have a tendancy to warp, especially when glued on with MEK. Holes were drilled in the brass section where the bolt heads were to go, then after glueing in place 20 thou plastic rod was inserted to represent the bolt heads.
Regards,
Scott
The W-irons are of the rocking type produced by MJT and the wheels by Alan Gibson, both of which are available from the S-Scale Society.
A little bit of tinkering was required to produce suitable Caledonian Railway buffers. The bodies of the buffers are 4mm castings which I bought from the Caley Railway Society a number of years ago, unfortunatly being 4mm the buffer heads were slightly under size for S-Scale. To get around the problem the heads were removed from their respective bodies and the bodies bored out, in the lathe, with a 1.6mm drill. I then took a 4mm Romford buffer, which just happens to have a buffer head suitable for S-Scale, mounted it in the lathe and turned down the body to leave only the head and shank. The head of the Romford buffer was then glued into the body of the white metal casting.
A number of these mineral wagons were converted into coke wagons by adding additional wooden rails to the top of the wagon. As I intended one of my wagons to be portrayed as a coke wagon I added these extra wooden rails using 20thou thick brass section. I chose brass over plastic as I felt the thin plastic sections would have a tendancy to warp, especially when glued on with MEK. Holes were drilled in the brass section where the bolt heads were to go, then after glueing in place 20 thou plastic rod was inserted to represent the bolt heads.
Regards,
Scott