Brian Daniels
Western Thunderer
I think I will let someone else go for the bonus points 
So what is this from?
So what is this from?
Did someone mention a Christmas quiz
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Brian Daniels
Western Thunderer
Damn I will have to give it to you, it's 37100 minus a tank.
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
A range of answers:-
* half points for the family of classes;
* standard points for the actual class;
* double points for the specific engine (which has been painted in blue);
* tiffin for the week for identifying the purpose of the part.
Richard is excluded on the basis of having had his leg pulled about adding this detail.
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demu1037
Western Thunderer
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
Andy,
Almost... the item is to limit the roll of the frames by transfer of the roll moment to the bogie frame and hence to the rail through the bogie suspension. As the plates on the top of the check and under the frame are horizontal - one slides over the other - the bogie check does not restrict the yaw motion of the frames.
19? Are you sure? There have been three A4s in blue in the recent few years.
When are you going to provide this part as a casting in the Ragstone range?
regards, Graham
Almost... the item is to limit the roll of the frames by transfer of the roll moment to the bogie frame and hence to the rail through the bogie suspension. As the plates on the top of the check and under the frame are horizontal - one slides over the other - the bogie check does not restrict the yaw motion of the frames.
19? Are you sure? There have been three A4s in blue in the recent few years.
When are you going to provide this part as a casting in the Ragstone range?
regards, Graham
demu1037
Western Thunderer
Graham,
Point 1
Can you *prove* its not 19?,
My thinking is that the splattering of semi emulsified oil indicates a working loco, so excludes the duck (unless you had a digi camera in the 80's), as 19 has recently been located 'Near to and far enough from... Basingstoke' and you have intimate knowledge of the location of its vac cylinders, its a likely candidate, also some one would have to be completely mad to travel 400 miles to see SNG with 19 on their doorstep .....
oh! bu**er, just defeated my own argument
.Point 2
As the likely client base has halved by Mr DT scratch building his -
.Regards
Andy
flexible_coupling
Western Thunderer
Just gotta say thanks to the participants in this thread for helping make me feel like there's another level of detail nerds above myself, and that I might actually be closer to normal human levels
Osgood
Western Thunderer
Loco behind could be Adams 0-4-0 dock tank, subject appears to have radial axleboxes - LSWR paint on wheels.
LSWR Adams Radial Tank?
P.S. Merry Xmas, and thanks to all who go to the trouble to post examples of their skills, advice and ideas, thereby making WT such an interesting and inspiring place to visit.
LSWR Adams Radial Tank?
P.S. Merry Xmas, and thanks to all who go to the trouble to post examples of their skills, advice and ideas, thereby making WT such an interesting and inspiring place to visit.
mickoo
Western Thunderer
I think the distant cylinders are another loco.....edit....of course they are, need to learn to look rather than see....or need more coffee!Oh no - cylinders are not same as a B4.
They are however just like those of a North London Tank………stuck now.
That's a trailing radial truck with apple green wheels so I'll guess LNER N2
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Osgood
Western Thunderer
Andy said there was a designer connection with the loco behind, Mick 
Interesting note about radial truck design from Wiki (if you can believe it):
Interesting note about radial truck design from Wiki (if you can believe it):
William Adams (1823–1904) was the Locomotive Superintendent of the North London Railway from 1858 to 1873; the Great Eastern Railwayfrom 1873 until 1878 and the London and South Western Railway from then until his retirement in 1895. He is best known for his locomotivesfeaturing the Adams bogie, a device with lateral centring springs (initially made of rubber) to improve high-speed stability. He should not be mistaken for William Bridges Adams (1797–1872) a locomotive engineer who, confusingly, invented the Adams axle – a radial axle that William Adams incorporated in designs for the London and South Western Railway.
mickoo
Western Thunderer
Ahh, so which loco are we trying to identify thenAndy said there was a designer connection with the loco behind, Mick
Interesting note about radial truck design from Wiki (if you can believe it):
William Adams (1823–1904) was the Locomotive Superintendent of the North London Railway from 1858 to 1873; the Great Eastern Railwayfrom 1873 until 1878 and the London and South Western Railway from then until his retirement in 1895. He is best known for his locomotivesfeaturing the Adams bogie, a device with lateral centring springs (initially made of rubber) to improve high-speed stability. He should not be mistaken for William Bridges Adams (1797–1872) a locomotive engineer who, confusingly, invented the Adams axle – a radial axle that William Adams incorporated in designs for the London and South Western Railway.
LOL, the one behind or the one overhead....or both! I'm not very good with locos pre 1948, the only green ones I know are LNER
anything else is fair game LOL
demu1037
Western Thunderer
Yes Osgood,
A radial truck on an LSWR Adams 0415 class tank, with a North London Park 0-6-0T behind (The design has also been credited to Adams - he left the NLR 6 years before it appeared, but there are similarities with the Adams 4-4-0T's).
For Mickoo, to help with his loco recognition studies - I assume you recognise the other loco?
Regards
Andy
A radial truck on an LSWR Adams 0415 class tank, with a North London Park 0-6-0T behind (The design has also been credited to Adams - he left the NLR 6 years before it appeared, but there are similarities with the Adams 4-4-0T's).
For Mickoo, to help with his loco recognition studies - I assume you recognise the other loco?
Regards
Andy
mickoo
Western Thunderer
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
Ah, yes, when Bittern was converted from vacuum to air braking the redundant cross-shaft and cylinders were deposited on top of a container box at Ropley.
The same person who drove 120 miles to photograph the end wall of a factory....some one would have to be completely mad to travel 400 miles to see SNG with 19 on their doorstep .....
oh! bu**er, just defeated my own argument
Overseer
Western Thunderer
"On an engine one window is allotted to the driver (top right) and the other to the fireman (top left). Besides feeding the insatiable furnace with coal the fireman has also to assist the driver in keeping a good look out. Driving an engine is a very complicated business, and very much a question of "knowing the road." It is easy to foul the points by only a moment’s inattention."
London circa 1920. Identify the 'engine'.