The Jinty is a Connoisseur kit, having just finished one all the tell tale signs are there. The cast roof, oversized coupling rod bosses, coal rail, smokebox construction etc.
I don't recognise the first one, so as Graham mentions it could well be a Roxy Mouldings kit. Although I seem to remember that Gateneal produced a good number of their own loco kits, not just motor and gearboxes.
Adrian.