Lubrication service on a small lathe

ceejaydee

Western Thunderer
I daresay that as the classic backgeared headstock design of lathe would have been driven by a flat belt which could be joined so stripping the headstock for belt replacement was not an original consideration.
I have a Drummond 4" Round Bed that has had it's flat belt replaced with a V belt although this has been cut and joined so again negating the requirement to strip the headstock for a belt change.
 

RichardG

Western Thunderer
Do either of these fit?
Yes the second design is just right! I did a search for "cowells lathe rating plate" and found them on eBay this morning. I guess I'm not the first to wash the ink off the original, and someone has found a market.

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The Cowells uses a pair of sewing machine belts, so really easy to buy and cheap as chips. The part number is MB-410, which seems to mean “machine belt, 410 mm”. If only all part numbers were so simple!

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When I started the motor, the machine duly flung drops of oil right down my shirt. As if to tell me, "all done!"

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This exercise began when the motor kept on stalling. I looked at the the motor pulley and saw the belt was running on the boss of the pulley, not in the groove. The last person who changed the belts fitted the wrong length, and used the larger diameter of the boss to make the bottom belt fit. So the ratio of the gearing was higher than it should be, and everything was running faster than I thought it was.

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I wonder, is this the original motor or a replacement? If it is the original, surely it hasn’t got much life left?

I have read about people putting a 3-phase motor into these machines to give continuously-variable control of the speed of the motor. So fewer belt moves. I need to sit and wait, see how the machine behaves itself. I haven’t persuaded it to stall yet, and it is clearly running at its proper speeds. The new speed plate will finish the job when it arrives.
 

RichardG

Western Thunderer
I have a Drummond 4" Round Bed that has had it's flat belt replaced with a V belt although this has been cut and joined so again negating the requirement to strip the headstock for a belt change.
Reassembling the headstock on the Cowells wasn't desperately difficult.

I tightened the Allen screw in the triple pulley a tad more than finger tight, then used a rubber mallet to tap the spindle left and right until the assembly spun freely without any end float. Then tightened down the bearings until they were catching, backed them off and then put everything else back. So I can grasp the chuck and see the spindle turns freely, but however hard I push and pull I cannot feel any play.

The Allen screw in the triple pulley can now be released and tightened at will, to use the back gear or direct drive.
 

Nigel Cliffe

Western Thunderer
I wonder, is this the original motor or a replacement? If it is the original, surely it hasn’t got much life left?

I have read about people putting a 3-phase motor into these machines to give continuously-variable control of the speed of the motor. So fewer belt moves. I need to sit and wait, see how the machine behaves itself. I haven’t persuaded it to stall yet, and it is clearly running at its proper speeds. The new speed plate will finish the job when it arrives.

I'd expect the motor to last absolutely ages. If the machine has been used every day for the last 40+ years, maybe the motor is tired, but for typical use of "now and then", its not likely to be on its last legs.

Continuous variable speed could be nice, but I find that the three top-belt options nearly all my needs - I've had a 12 speed Cowell for over 30 years.

Nigel
 
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