An 'S' Scale Adventure

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Richie I am watching this one closely and wondering what sort of motive power may unfold......!
Steam, diesel?
Cheers
Julian
 

ScottW

Western Thunderer
Nice wagon are the buffer heads brass?

They are indeed brass.

I used Markits 4mm scale wagon buffers, put them in the lathe and turned down the bodies leaving the brass buffer heads. These were then glued into Slaters 4mm scale Collett locomotive buffer bodies.
 

paratom

Western Thunderer
Not to sound like a buffer anorak but why don’t you sweat some solder onto the buffer heads to make them look like steel before you glue them in?
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Hi Richie, sorry you had already said that in your earlier thread didn't you.....I need to listen!! There is something about S Scale and pre grouping isn't there?

May I ask what is the overall measurement of the W irons and the etched floor please as I am tempted to try my hand at building a wagon body......I have been re-reading Fraser's thread aka Overseer on scratch building in styrene. It will help place the solebars at the correct spacing.

Thank you

Julian
 

Marsh Lane

Active Member
Hi Julian,
No problem :) Not sure why pre-grouping seems to go with S Scale, like fish goes with chips! Probably more the interest level of those taking part I suspect, or is it that because everything has to be handbuilt there is more interest in doing something different? Not sure.

I'll measure it for you this evening, but for £20 its worth getting the kit from the Society! You can buy the bits separately, so if you want to build the body out of styrene, you can just buy the etch for the chassis (and wheels if you wish) from the Society.
Richie
 

Marsh Lane

Active Member
May I ask what is the overall measurement of the W irons and the etched floor please as I am tempted to try my hand at building a wagon body.

Julian,
The photos below (which show I have now got the cast brake gear fitted!) should give you what you need....

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A superb kit to build, especially now we've established the issue with the brake gear fret, but the cast replacement (only £1!) really does look that part.

Richie
 

ScottW

Western Thunderer
Not to sound like a buffer anorak but why don’t you sweat some solder onto the buffer heads to make them look like steel before you glue them in?

Basically, it never entered my head to do so. Now that you have mentioned it I’m thinking “why didn’t I do that?” . :(

Thanks for the tip.:thumbs:
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Thank you for this Richie, very tempting at that price too as even 4mm wagon kits to that standard are getting close to that price. My introduction to S Scale was the original white metal 1907 RCH PO wagon...cast the night before by the late Sam Bonfield! I donated it back to the society a while ago....wish I still had it along with other wagons.

I won’t tell anyone that you used mm!! Sorry couldn’t resist that one.

I think you are right in as much early railways are more prominent in S due to the fact that you are not steered by products.....

I will keep watching this thread.

All the best
Julian
 

Marsh Lane

Active Member
Have to say there was a momentous moment today, when the first ever piece of S Scale trackwork was produced! Its rough and ready, purely a test straight for the wagons to be honest. Created using chopped copper clad sleepers (intended for 7mm pointwork) with Code 100 rail (from an old 4mm metre length) and a piece of old fence post! Thinking of calling it the Heinz straight, as there are so many varieties!!

Like I say, nothing that would past muster, but the three wagons roll up and down it quite happily, so at least its proved everything is straight, with accurate corners.

Richie
 

Marsh Lane

Active Member
We should have a photo at least.

Well as you asked so nicely!! I meant to post this on Friday night and didn't get time .. sorry!

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Creating using some old copper clad that I had from 7mm modelling days, and OO gauge Code 100 rail from a length of Peco flexitrack, with rail gauges from the S Scale Society .... I am quite pleased. Gives me a bit of confidence for the proper thing now!

Richie
 

IanB3174

Member
It's so rewarding building your own track, in any scale. In my teens myself and a friend did psuedo P4. Basically made up SMP point kits with verniers set to 18.83 and extended the OO wheels on the axles. It worked, mostly, some wagons couldn't be coaxed wide enough. Most kit stuff was fine. I then started a model based on Cirencester Town with copperclad sleepers, burnt fingers and carpet. I wasn't popular. I've even made soldered track for an O gauge garden railway which survived several years buried in a soil ballast on bricks. It's certainly robust.
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Looking good Richie.....wish my "old fence posts" looked that good!

The thing with S Scale is you can recycle. If you are looking at pre grouping light rail you may get away with N gauge code 80 rail for a finer appearance. This can be picked up cheaply.

It is very nice to see S Scale activity in this area of Society News.....please keep it coming.

Julian
 

Marsh Lane

Active Member
Only just a quick update. Life and family has got in the way the past six months or so, but I am still progressing. There are five open wagons built now .. still have to decide on couplings although AJs are looking a good 'almost' invisible option at the moment. Thoughts are turning to motive power at the present - I am still keen on a pre-grouping setup, the tidiness of the railway, the attractive stock all adds to the scene, but also wondering about maybe a Barclay 0-4-0ST, something akin to the 1914 Rosyth No. 1 that is based at Pontypool. Just not sure where to get the drawings or measurements from. Need to research that a bit.

In terms of a layout to run them on, it starts to suggest something colliery like, perhaps something similar to Beamish as a basis? Anyway, purely to say I am still plodding on and it hasn't been forgotten about. There may also be a surprise down the line at all (no its not a train coming the other way!) but something that will also need rails and a good reason for staying in the pre-grouping period!

Sorry for the lack of replies to previous posts too guys.

It's so rewarding building your own track, in any scale. In my teens myself and a friend did psuedo P4. It's certainly robust.
It certainly is. I have been dabbling a bit with 2mm Finescale too - not one to limit myself to just one thing! Probably why I never seem to finish things, but there is a big difference in the look of things with handbuilt track.

Looking good Richie.....wish my "old fence posts" looked that good!

The thing with S Scale is you can recycle. If you are looking at pre grouping light rail you may get away with N gauge code 80 rail for a finer appearance. This can be picked up cheaply.

It is very nice to see S Scale activity in this area of Society News.....please keep it coming.

Julian
Thanks Julian,
I hadn't thought about N Gauge Code 80, might have to take a look at that. I've also go some small solder balls now, which were recommended to me for track building, an attempt at making sure you dont have too much solder on your iron.

Must admit, I do like the size of S scale, it has a bit more presence that OO, easier on the eye than N/2FS, but not the size needed for O gauge! Been said many times, but it is true!

Richie
 

Marsh Lane

Active Member
Hello Richie,

The Barclay drawings are held at Glasgow University - Records of Andrew Barclay Sons & Co Ltd, locomotive manufacturers and engineers, Kilmarnock, East Ayrshire, Scotland - Archives Hub - if you know what you're after (i.e., by works number of a particular engine or one that's similar to the sort of thing you want), they may well be able to help.

Adam
Hi Adam,
That is wonderful, thank you for that. I had no idea where they would be or who would have them, so I'll go look and see what can be done. I am too far to visit easily, but hopefully something can be sorted out. If I could get the General Arrangement drawing, I think that would probably give me what I needed.

Richie
 
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