Building track the traditional way, P4 3 way pus a bit of 00 gauge

PaxtonP4

Western Thunderer
Sorry but I think you have confused my post with others. I posted that the LMS Standard Pway Drawings Dated 1928 on Page 9a are clearly annotated 'Three-Throw Types 1 and 2'. No mention of the word 'Turnout'.
I haven’t confused anything, you stated "and the three way that started this topic the LMS PWay standards described as a 'Three-Throw". It is not described by the LMS as a Three-throw. What is shown on page 9a is a three-throw with the switch blades having staggered ends. What is shown "at the start" of this topic is a Tandem.
 

76043

Western Thunderer
I confess to being a little surprised that the Flying Scotsman didn't raise a single smile...
I got it and thought it was funny, likely more funny than these Ai images of a model railway exhibition. The demographic seems to be spot on.
Tony

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David Mylchreest

Western Thunderer
A friend asked me to build a P4 3way turnout for him, its taken a few weeks for me to get going as I have not done any traditional track building for ages

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Exactoscale timbers have been laid on the plan my friend supplied, I must admit some of the check rails are overly long, but that's what has been requested

The left hand V6 common crossing has been fabricated, and the center V5 has been part built

View attachment 243833 The right hand crossing is a V3.8, Templot has come to the rescue with a bespoke filing jig. The next part will be fun as there is little room for anything other than perfection

John
Can we get back to this, please?
 

Hayfield1

Western Thunderer
David

I need to get back to this, but I assembled the middle and front common crossings and was pleased with the results. BUT when I started to cut of the surplus brass 1mm supports a couple of the soldered joints gave way. No mayor issues as all the rails are intact. I just need to solder them all back again. A day or two and I will be there. Just been playing with full size narrow gauge coaches
 

Hayfield1

Western Thunderer
Now all the fervor has died down

Back to the building
Before anyone askes me about the timbering or check rails, the design was made by a friend and his friend, as his first attempt did not work as well as hoped


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The 2 subassemblies were made and the first common crossing was chaired and stuck in place

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A closer view of the common crossing

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The second sub assembly was chaired up, on the straight check rails I used standard 0.64mm (gap) check rail chairs, and fitted the rest of the whole chairs

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In the main I used check rail gauges, simply I get better results than with roller gauges

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The two main stock rails were chaired up, but I used the gauge widened (0.08mm) check rail chairs, Given the length of check rails I decoded to gauge widen as the turnouts (points) were A5 & A6

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I needed to also make the first switch rail and chair it
 

Hayfield1

Western Thunderer
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I have made a start on the first switch rail chairs, using Exactoscale E4CH501A switch rail chair pack, doing this first job allows me to fit the last switch rail


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Not one of mine but something Terry at Kosmik (models) is doing. Narrow gauge 0-16.5 plug track with spiked track fittings (chairs) Terry tells me it can also be done in code 100 fb (it mat be on show at Guildex in September

John
 

Hayfield1

Western Thunderer
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The final switch rail has been fitted and more additional switch chairs have also been fitted.

I have tested all 3 routes using my P4 High Level 57xx chassis and all 3 routes work OK.

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I now need to finish off the toe end, you will notice the first 2 slide chairs have not been fitted, and wont be until after I have fitted the tiebars (the heat of soldering may damage the plastic slide chairs.

Still I am happy with the build to date.

To do are the electrical bonding wires and tie bars plus the few remaining slide chairs


John
 

Hayfield1

Western Thunderer
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The tandem turnout is nearly finished, as the first chair became damaged and has been replaced

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A cruel oversized shot showing the special switch chairs, these were the easy ones as were fitted as designed

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There are no special chairs for 3 way turnouts, its a case of just making do with what is available and adapt where necessary

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The brass bonding wires (which stick out like a sore thumb in the above photo) once painted will more or less disappear, but a quick wipe with a marker pen dulls the appearance a bit

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In my tiebar box I found some old P4 tiebars (ex Martin Wynn )

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A closer view. Turned metal (NS?) pegs in a predrilled tiebar
 
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