spikey faz
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Ah, that lovely Polyfilla taste. Can't beat it!Your buildings look great and the (tongue enhanced) mortar does tone the brickwork down quite nicely.
Mike
The Yard - A small industrial layout in 7mm
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Ah, that lovely Polyfilla taste. Can't beat it!Your buildings look great and the (tongue enhanced) mortar does tone the brickwork down quite nicely.
Mike
Greengiant
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Hi Phil,
After the initial application I use an old cotton T-shirt to wipe off most of the excess, sometimes a wooden coffee stirrer to initially scrape, working diagonally to the courses and joints otherwise you will clear those out. I prefer this to tissue which I find tears too much. Sometimes I will dip the cotton into a small pot of water to help with removing the Polyfilla.
I let it dry, then take the bulk off with a Scotchbright mop in a wizzy disk with a flexy drive. This requires a very light touch, you soon get the knack and it is very quick.
Sometimes I use a scratch brush for blending some areas, or getting into corners. For tight close corners I use a wooden skewer, sharpened to a point to gently work away excess Polyfilla. I don't want to remove it all, I need some on the brick surface to tone down the primer red and give the effect of mottled and stained walls.
After this stage, I fit the windows and details and then weather it all. Takes a while, just take your time.
Martin
paulc
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Hi Martin , for the zinc sheet roof was that just a flat sheet with ribs glued on ? Very effective and something i will have to try .
Greengiant
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Yes, 20 thou base sheet then 1mm x 1mm Evergreen strip, every fourth rib was 1mm x 1.5mm, purely because I did not have enough 1mm x 1mm in stock!
Martin
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Not posted for a while on this thread, so this is a catch up.
For the Hastings show, we refurbished the trailer we used for Whiteoak Light Railway when exhibiting. This enables us to get back to one car and trailer to get to shows rather than two cars.
This also gives us greater flexibility as to when we load and unload the layout for shows.
As can be seen in this photo, we have a lot of spare room, although the fiddle yard boards are not in yet.
The rolling stock, lorries and crane all travel in the boot of the car.
Although the new factory back drop looked ok, it did lack some detail bits to be more in keeping with the existing buildings.
We also had a Railway Modeller photo shoot booked for early September, therefore keen to get more done for this occasion. After this we are at the Bressingham Model Railway Day on Sunday 21 September.
First up was to laser cut some parts for extractors and grills. I already had the drawing files from the main buildings on the layout.
They were cut from 2mm MDF, 0.6mm and 0.9mm PolyBak.
Various bolt fixings were glued with epoxy resin into the carcases.
At the same time I cut some support brackets from 0.9mm PolyBak.
The parts were bolted to scrap PVC Foamex offcuts with packers to keep the sides clear for painting.
The other parts were held with narrow double sided tape other wise they would blow away when sprayed.
Now primed and top coat.
Final stage is to weather them, here are some WIP photos.
Martin
For the Hastings show, we refurbished the trailer we used for Whiteoak Light Railway when exhibiting. This enables us to get back to one car and trailer to get to shows rather than two cars.
This also gives us greater flexibility as to when we load and unload the layout for shows.
As can be seen in this photo, we have a lot of spare room, although the fiddle yard boards are not in yet.
The rolling stock, lorries and crane all travel in the boot of the car.
Although the new factory back drop looked ok, it did lack some detail bits to be more in keeping with the existing buildings.
We also had a Railway Modeller photo shoot booked for early September, therefore keen to get more done for this occasion. After this we are at the Bressingham Model Railway Day on Sunday 21 September.
First up was to laser cut some parts for extractors and grills. I already had the drawing files from the main buildings on the layout.
They were cut from 2mm MDF, 0.6mm and 0.9mm PolyBak.
Various bolt fixings were glued with epoxy resin into the carcases.
At the same time I cut some support brackets from 0.9mm PolyBak.
The parts were bolted to scrap PVC Foamex offcuts with packers to keep the sides clear for painting.
The other parts were held with narrow double sided tape other wise they would blow away when sprayed.
Now primed and top coat.
Final stage is to weather them, here are some WIP photos.
Martin
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Tom Insole
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Looking great, and looking forward to seeing it at Bressingham. Im hoping to be up there running something on the 16mm layout that day. (Still yet to arrange it with Chris) but wasn't aware until your post there was a model railways day the same day I'd pencilled in to go up for a running session. Should make it all the more fun!
Greengiant
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Do come and say hi. We are going up Saturday morning to have a look around the museum beforehand.
Martin
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The last bit of detailing I did for the factories was the guttering. For this I used old umbrella arms, this is nice and strong and about the right size.
Brackets were bent up from 1 mm Nickle silver wire.
Then checked for fit.
It was all taped down and flux applied.
Solder used was Carr's 179 degree paste solder.
Heat applied with an ERSA iCon iron.
This resulted in a strong strip of gutter with brackets.
They were then painted and holes drilled to accept the brackets. This is easy enough once the first hole has been drilled, then just pop a piece of 1mm wire in the hole, rest the first bracket against this, then it leaves all the other brackets as guides to rest the drill against, ensuring all are in the correct position, providing you drill the right side of the wire!.
The guttering in place.
We were at the Bressingham Steam Museum model railway show on Sunday, well looked after and a nice location to show the layout, we were one of the first to set up on the Saturday. They even gave us passes on the Saturday to tour the museum and ride the trains.
Our next show is in a couple of weeks at Farnham.
Martin
Brackets were bent up from 1 mm Nickle silver wire.
Then checked for fit.
It was all taped down and flux applied.
Solder used was Carr's 179 degree paste solder.
Heat applied with an ERSA iCon iron.
This resulted in a strong strip of gutter with brackets.
They were then painted and holes drilled to accept the brackets. This is easy enough once the first hole has been drilled, then just pop a piece of 1mm wire in the hole, rest the first bracket against this, then it leaves all the other brackets as guides to rest the drill against, ensuring all are in the correct position, providing you drill the right side of the wire!.
The guttering in place.
We were at the Bressingham Steam Museum model railway show on Sunday, well looked after and a nice location to show the layout, we were one of the first to set up on the Saturday. They even gave us passes on the Saturday to tour the museum and ride the trains.
Our next show is in a couple of weeks at Farnham.
Martin
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Thoughts after the latest show are to have a controller for each of the three narrow gauge locos. Technically we could just use one, but for the way we operate there is not really enough time to switch between locos efficiently and answer questions from the viewing public.
Currently the front line shunting loco is on one controller, the two factory road locos share the other controller.
Therefore a new 3 x gang controller holder needs to be built, mounted using the existing bolt holes for the two holders.
Martin
Currently the front line shunting loco is on one controller, the two factory road locos share the other controller.
Therefore a new 3 x gang controller holder needs to be built, mounted using the existing bolt holes for the two holders.
Martin
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For some while now, I have been meaning to build two longer four wheel flats to give the crane operator a bit of room to place the loads.
These were to be scratch built, then along comes Chivers Finelines with a new two plank wagon kit, based on their brake van chassis.
An order was placed and a few days later the kits dropped through the letter box. Good service as always from Chivers.
Now the question is, can I get them built, painted and weathered before the Farnham show?
Martin
These were to be scratch built, then along comes Chivers Finelines with a new two plank wagon kit, based on their brake van chassis.
An order was placed and a few days later the kits dropped through the letter box. Good service as always from Chivers.
Now the question is, can I get them built, painted and weathered before the Farnham show?
Martin
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I have laser cut the controller holders from 2mm and 4mm MDF.
Each holder consists of 11 parts of 2mm MDF.
The holder mounts are 4mm MDF, here they are being checked for fit.
The holders being assembled and glued. This was tricky, but the magnetic clamps helped.
The main support plate bolts on to the shelf using the original captive bolt holes used for the previous two mounts.
Just checking clearances here.
Now ready for paint.
Controller handsets in place.
Depending what is next to the layout on the righthand side at exhibitions, it can be difficult for the lorry drivers to see the lorry turntable clearly, which they view from about 11 feet under the factories at the rear of the layout.
To aid visibility, I laser cut a small board that just drops onto the upturn of the lorry turntable support bracket.
Example view with a dark background, although only about two foot away as opposed to 11 feet.
Laser cut back board in place.
Now painted in white.
This is how it drops on.
The new view.
Martin
Each holder consists of 11 parts of 2mm MDF.
The holder mounts are 4mm MDF, here they are being checked for fit.
The holders being assembled and glued. This was tricky, but the magnetic clamps helped.
The main support plate bolts on to the shelf using the original captive bolt holes used for the previous two mounts.
Just checking clearances here.
Now ready for paint.
Controller handsets in place.
Depending what is next to the layout on the righthand side at exhibitions, it can be difficult for the lorry drivers to see the lorry turntable clearly, which they view from about 11 feet under the factories at the rear of the layout.
To aid visibility, I laser cut a small board that just drops onto the upturn of the lorry turntable support bracket.
Example view with a dark background, although only about two foot away as opposed to 11 feet.
Laser cut back board in place.
Now painted in white.
This is how it drops on.
The new view.
Martin
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Controller holders painted and controllers colour coded to the locos.
I bought a CAT5 splitter to give me the extra port to connect the fourth handset.
That proved to be a failure, although the Gaugemaster Prodigy uses CAT5 connectors and cables, it uses different communication and needs their faceplate to split them.
The faceplates have douubled in price since I last bought any, probably about 20 years ago now, on top of that, nobody has any in stock, not even Gaugemaster.
Luckily there were some secondhand ones on eBay, I now have one due for delivery on Monday, still cost more than I originally paid, but a lot cheaper than new, not that you could get one anyway.
Martin
I bought a CAT5 splitter to give me the extra port to connect the fourth handset.
That proved to be a failure, although the Gaugemaster Prodigy uses CAT5 connectors and cables, it uses different communication and needs their faceplate to split them.
The faceplates have douubled in price since I last bought any, probably about 20 years ago now, on top of that, nobody has any in stock, not even Gaugemaster.
Luckily there were some secondhand ones on eBay, I now have one due for delivery on Monday, still cost more than I originally paid, but a lot cheaper than new, not that you could get one anyway.
Martin
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The Farnham show has been and gone. We had a good time, we were well looked after by the Farnham Club. The layout was well received with a lot of interest shown in what we have built, made all the more better with coming second in the public vote for most appealing layout at the show.
The three controller holder set up made a big difference to the narrow gauge train operating. The end board on the lorry turntable was great help in siting the lorry route.
Very pleased with how the layout ran overall.
We have a few small tweaks to do, a red line in the centre of the end board on the lorry turntable. Investigation into installing an uplight on the lorry turntable so that the drivers can see when the lorry is fully on the turntable, not easy from about 11 feet away peering through the factories. Properly fit the Gaugemaster extension plate for the handset cabling.
We have another Bedford TK to convert to radio control, learning from our experience with the first one.
Then the plan is to create a proper video of the layout in action, after which it will all be packed away ready for the first show of next year (only one confirmed so far, but a few in the pipe line awaiting paperwork) and three in 2027.
We had a steady crowd both days with many returning for a second and third look. A lot of people said they found it very relaxing to watch.
Martin
The three controller holder set up made a big difference to the narrow gauge train operating. The end board on the lorry turntable was great help in siting the lorry route.
Very pleased with how the layout ran overall.
We have a few small tweaks to do, a red line in the centre of the end board on the lorry turntable. Investigation into installing an uplight on the lorry turntable so that the drivers can see when the lorry is fully on the turntable, not easy from about 11 feet away peering through the factories. Properly fit the Gaugemaster extension plate for the handset cabling.
We have another Bedford TK to convert to radio control, learning from our experience with the first one.
Then the plan is to create a proper video of the layout in action, after which it will all be packed away ready for the first show of next year (only one confirmed so far, but a few in the pipe line awaiting paperwork) and three in 2027.
We had a steady crowd both days with many returning for a second and third look. A lot of people said they found it very relaxing to watch.
Martin