1/32 Launceston Road

[Neil]

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Lovely stuff Simon, I like the sense of space that the gentle curve and the generous width of the embankment gives. The indoor equivalent would be the deep baseboard with a high proportion of scenery to track. It strikes me that there's a danger you could loose that magnificent broad sweep when it comes to planting up the embankment, any ideas how you're going to tackle the green stuff?

 

[Scale7JB]

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Looks great... just how long would a full rake of coaches be in G1 ? :laugh:

JB.

 

[Steve Cook]

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Just wicked Simon

Some superb shots in there, although I'm with Phill in that my favourite is the double headed, inside the curve photo, absolutely lovely

Good to hear you and Fred had a lot of fun, roll on the summer and some more track :lol:

Steve

 

[iploffy]

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that does look the part Simon but the security issue shouid be addressed

Ian

 

[Simon]

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that does look the part Simon but the security issue shouid be addressed

Ian

Security wise its not quite as wide open as it looks, as the open ground in the background is private land and remarkably unfrequented by "casual visitors".

That said I have various ideas and measures either in mind or in progress, the growth of various greeneries being one of them.

Today was a paperwork and house day so no more progress.

I'm currently contemplating how best to achieve reliable insulation across the centre of the tiebar. In the picture of the dismantled unit the bolts had partially cut through the orange wire insulation and made contact with the tiebar half.



I'm currently considering a smear of epoxy and then winding ptfe tape around the area required to be insulated.

Of course all this assumes I'll be able to get the bolts threaded back on to the ends of the nuts

Its also interesting to see that rusting has already started on both the soldered over (not) heads and cut ends of the pairs of bolts on each switch rail

 

[iploffy]

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couldn't you use nylon bolts and loctite the nuts on. I presume you are using slow action point motors so the forces won't be a severe as a quick throw action.

Ian

 

[marsa69]

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What about a very short piece of a thin drinking straw to act as an insulated sleeve for the bolts? I originally thought of maybe rubber 'heat shrink' but I don't think they do a size small enough, but I could be wrong. Any electricians out there to confirm/deny this? :scratch:

 

[rjr]

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Only joined the forum last nigh so I have had a fair bit of reading to enjoy, all the pages of this thread being very interesting. Re heat shrink tube pretty sure you will get down to that size at maplins

John

 

[Jordan]

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Only joined the forum last night...

...and you were back again at 05:38 this morning :shock: ... you must like it here, then, John!!

 

[Neil]

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I'm currently considering a smear of epoxy and then winding ptfe tape around the area required to be insulated.

I doubt that epoxy would stick ptfe tape. In the past I've used epoxy and cotton sewing thread wound round to insulate pins which has worked ok; though I've not tested it outdoors it was used for the tiebars for Shell Island and has stood up to the admittedly infrequent use over a good number of years.

 

[28ten]

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maybe a 'tophat' from tufnol or ptfe tube each side of the bolt would do the trick, that way the bolts would be tightened securely without any worry

 

[Simon]

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Thanks for all the suggestions

In the end, and following a reminder from Steve Cook, I opted for Neil's "cotton and epoxy method" which he fully explained on RMweb a while ago. Thanks for the reminder above Neil, I was winding the cotton on to the bolt at about the same time as you put in your post!

I filed down the shank of the bolt near its head, smeared on epoxy and then wound black cotton around, holding the ends tight with bits of masking tape against the vice jaws that were holding the bolt. Once dry, a bit of cleanifying and scraping and they were a nice firm fit into the first plastikard insulating piece, I then fitted this to the tie bar half, followed by second insulating plastikard piece and opposite tie bar half.

The first nut went back on amazingly easily, the second one I managed only after pinging the original into the undergrowth (makes a change from the carpet) and then making a little spanner with which to offer up the nut.

Here is the completed unit and the job's a good 'un

 

[Simon]

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Flushed with success, I decided a works train was called for

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I then managed to solder feeds to, super-elevate and permanently lay two more sections on to the timber bases on the other side of the lift out bridge and construct a new 4 panel section (38" of line) which I have soldered feeds to and laid temporarily on the "up" side of the turnout.

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I also sorted out a level problem on the lift out bridge and carried out more filing on the switch blades to ensure a smooth passage in a facing direction. My neighbour came around, and a couple of beers were opened.

Another very happy day

 

[Simon]

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Sorry, can't resist inflicting another couple of snaps from today's activities

First off, a panned shot of D6319 running light at about 50mph :lol:

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And possibly my favourite snap of the day:

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This has got to be the best train set I have ever had in my life, I feel very fortunate indeed.

 

[Phill Dyson]

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Nice to see yet more progress to your line Simon , us garden modellers don't have layouts, we have proper lines :laugh: , you are putting yet more gauge one temptation in my path :lol: . One quick question for you, what are the available alternatives for MK1 coaches in G1 apart from Fred's & the Tower brass ones ?

Cheers Phill

 

[Simon]

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Nice to see yet more progress to your line Simon , us garden modellers don't have layouts, we have proper lines :laugh: , you are putting yet more gauge one temptation in my path :lol: . One quick question for you, what are the available alternatives for MK1 coaches in G1 apart from Fred's & the Tower brass ones ?

Cheers Phill

That is a very good question, if not the "sixty four thousand dollar question" for Gauge One.

There have been various kits of parts, but all in 10mm scale which is incorrect for the gauge (don't ask )

In 1/32 there are Fred's kits and the Tower models, in addition to which various bespoke builders will custom build, but the costs are high in each case. The late David Jenkinson scratchbuilt coaches, but that is a huge amount of work requiring a lot of skill and patience.

There is/has been talk of either Accucraft (Ian Pearse) or Trevor Taylor (Gauge One Trains) getting RTR mk 1s made in Chine for the ?200 mark, which would be absolutely marvellous.

But then I look at the new Heljan O gauge offering and wonder whether such a model can ever be got right in the larger scales :scratch:

Personally, my aspirations are for a three coach set in Southern Region green with guests hopefully bringing additional stock to run on running days. This would give me an authentic "Withered Arm" train for my Class 22 and the SR/WR transition which so fascinates me.

Other projects and expense will mean this is some way away for me, although having seen how good Fred's coaches are I am tempted to try saving up and attempting one, but one wouldn't be enough and the amount of effort required is huge, by Fred's own admission :shock:

I also have various other prototype leanings (Prussian Blue) and the thought of live steam to run on my line too, so many distractions....

I love your layout and hope that any venture into G1 wouldn't jeapordize what you have done. Realistically speaking I am not sure that any of us could muster all the required elements to put on the "show" that you are already doing with your layout

 

[Simon]

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Looks great... just how long would a full rake of coaches be in G1 ? :laugh:

JB.

About ?12,000 :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Jordan]

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So far I've just really been admiring your line.

Then you went and posted this :twisted: :....

NOW I'm jealous....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Phill Dyson]

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[quote=""Phill Dyson"":gxfema17]Nice to see yet more progress to your line Simon , us garden modellers don't have layouts, we have proper lines :laugh: , you are putting yet more gauge one temptation in my path :lol: . One quick question for you, what are the available alternatives for MK1 coaches in G1 apart from Fred's & the Tower brass ones ?

Cheers Phill

That is a very good question, if not the "sixty four thousand dollar question" for Gauge One.

There have been various kits of parts, but all in 10mm scale which is incorrect for the gauge (don't ask )

In 1/32 there are Fred's kits and the Tower models, in addition to which various bespoke builders will custom build, but the costs are high in each case. The late David Jenkinson scratchbuilt coaches, but that is a huge amount of work requiring a lot of skill and patience.

There is/has been talk of either Accucraft (Ian Pearse) or Trevor Taylor (Gauge One Trains) getting RTR mk 1s made in Chine for the ?200 mark, which would be absolutely marvellous.

But then I look at the new Heljan O gauge offering and wonder whether such a model can ever be got right in the larger scales :scratch:

Personally, my aspirations are for a three coach set in Southern Region green with guests hopefully bringing additional stock to run on running days. This would give me an authentic "Withered Arm" train for my Class 22 and the SR/WR transition which so fascinates me.

Other projects and expense will mean this is some way away for me, although having seen how good Fred's coaches are I am tempted to try saving up and attempting one, but one wouldn't be enough and the amount of effort required is huge, by Fred's own admission :shock:

I also have various other prototype leanings (Prussian Blue) and the thought of live steam to run on my line too, so many distractions....

I love your layout and hope that any venture into G1 wouldn't jeapordize what you have done. Realistically speaking I am not sure that any of us could muster all the required elements to put on the "show" that you are already doing with your layout [/quote:gxfema17]
Thanks for the kind words about my bodgings Simon & don't worry I'm not about to call in Dr Beeching to the Withercombe branch :laugh: .......TBH the G1 seed was planted in my mind at last years Scalerail Bolton, I was drooling at the Tower stand & they had a O gauge painted & lined brass Black 5 at the side of a G1 painted & lined brass black 5 & there was something like ?150 difference in the prices & the G1 one looked stunning to my eyes , but I think you have confirmed what I already suspected with regard to the cost of rolling stock to go with the loco's & I would have to scale down my operation drastically in order to move up to G1, I do have the space ( I could double the size of my present line ) but without the likes of Lima & Triang to get me started I think it's probably a non starter really.............. for now :laugh:

Cheers Phill :wave:

 

[lancer1027]

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Hi Simon, as Phill has already said this gauge 1 lark is tempting. I think that mk1 half brake looks superb . If a western was available then temptation maybe tooooooo great :lol: It's bad enough looking at the warship Are we all really satisfied with anything we do modelling ? There are too many distractions for my likeing. Fantastic job Simon,keep posting the pics mate
Rob :wave: