The Chronicles of Canary Sidings - Eastern Eccentricity in EM

Phil O

Western Thunderer
I don't know about the science of it, Simon. There will be those things you describe happening, but to help keep flat surfaces from distorting, carefully blast or peen both sides by swapping around during the process, so the forces even out.

Incidentally, I've watched panelbeaters remove dents by shrinking the steel, this by heating a small spot to dull red, then dumping a wet rag on it. :)

The old notion of blasting models to provide a 'key for paint', seems outdated now, but it's still useful for tidying some parts.

Cheers, Brian

Brian,

There are also panel beating hammers with groves in the faces that are used to shrink the metal.
 

Brian McKenzie

Western Thunderer
Hi Brian,

I would suggest that you try blasting some etch waste and try getting the pressure as low as possible. Low enough to clean up the job, without doing severe surface damage.

When we had some vent trunking shot blasted, was to cut the flanges off and use them as a template, due to excessive air pressure.

Some of the more experienced operators would look at the job and adjust the various settings according to their experience, novices would just crank everythingup to full and wreck it up completely.

Yes, spot on Phil :thumbs:.

I've been guilty of using too much pressure on sheet stuff at times - when reluctant to reduce pressure that's preset for elsewhere.
An additional reducing valve at the blast cabinet is on the round toit list.

-Brian McK.
 

Herb Garden

Western Thunderer
There’s always the ‘For Sale” thread :))
Were you hinting I sell it or buy yet more loco kits?

Where he can find another kit to put it in...:rolleyes:....I like the way you're thinking. :thumbs:
Oh come on there must be something in the massive pile of unbuilt things that I never will finish.... Somewhere somewhere.....

Ah ha!
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The perfect thing!

Im like a peppercorn A2 Pacific.... Here's one I bought from the for sale thread earlier! :))

Also it's highly appropriate given the current thread title!
 

Herb Garden

Western Thunderer
So progress this morning sees the Midland 2441 class chassis coming together

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Not sure the brass frames are the best design idea but they go together nice.

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Just imagine the wheels

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Although I'm using the frames as per the kit I've replaced the original condition rods with some Gibson ones which are much finer. I'm sure you will agree it was a wise move
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
I have half a notion all Impetus kits were like that (the two I’ve done are), so very solid! One of those models you do see built up occasionally so I guess it was one of the better sellers.

Adam
 

Herb Garden

Western Thunderer
I have half a notion all Impetus kits were like that (the two I’ve done are), so very solid! One of those models you do see built up occasionally so I guess it was one of the better sellers.

Adam
Is that so? Interesting.

Its probably a geeky hobby within a geeky hobby but I'm fascinated by vintage/lost kit ranges particularly where the ranges feature an interesting/charming selection of prototypes.

Brands like Chilton Ironworks, Peter K, Backwoods, D&S and Impetus all disappeared before I got into finescale modelling sadly so I do keep an eye out I case I see any on the second hand market.

What I don't know though and it's a bit pot luck whether these old kits are any good or not. Ive found kits a real mix of quality design and not so quality. This Ruston kit is a few years older than me so the technology to support design of kits will have been limited so who knows how it will go together. The riceworks buckjumper that is also in the works at the moment is a nightmare of a build (but more on that later) but that is five years younger than the Ruston....
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
The two I've built - the Bagnall 0-6-0ST, and the streamlined Fowler 0-4-0 were a bit mixed. The Bagnall was mostly fine, though I seem to remember that the bunker rear sheet was too small and I struggled with the saddletank a bit. Incidentally, the supplied turned brass chimney was too tall (I think it was probably meant for a Jinty), hence the Giesl. The chassis was excellent though, and the self jigging cylinders were very neat.

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The Fowler was more difficult, because I realised that the cab couldn't be painted inside as designed, still less glazed since everything ended up as a sealed unit. I reworked the cab roof to make the panel between the rainstrips removable. All the bits fitted, I should say, though the whitemetal fly crank put up a bit of a fight the end result is one of my better efforts. I suspect that it had been designed with 0 gauge in mind - the Simplex certainly was, but dad built that - that's an all wheel drive with Mainline Warship gears. Why Mainline Warship gears? It was the '90s...

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There's one other, but I only reworked that. Bob Alderman, who lots of people on here knew, built it. My contribution was to tame the play in the compensation a bit and to put some better gears and pick ups in it - time moves on with these things: when Bob built it, Romford 30:1s were what you could get that fitted!

St Teilo is a 15" Hunslet. The Impetus chimney was naff - somewhere between the stovepipes some had (with mechanical stokers, I think), and a proper Hunslet job - and Mike Edge sold me a replacement from his kit. A very simple loco and, having had it apart, a simple, accurate, kit. This is paintjob number three since I had it, Bob liked the hand lettering, I remember.

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Someday there may be some colliery sidings for these to play in, but the Fowler could be at home on Podimore, I suppose.
 
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Herb Garden

Western Thunderer
The two I've built - the Bagnall 0-6-0ST, and the streamlined Fowler 0-4-0 were a bit mixed. The Bagnall was mostly fine, though I seem to remember that the bunker rear sheet was too small and I struggled with the saddletank a bit. Incidentally, the supplied turned brass chimney was too tall (I think it was probably meant for a Jinty), hence the Giesl. The chassis was excellent though, and the self jigging cylinders were very neat.

carnarvon1a-gif.16104


The Fowler was more difficult, because I realised that the cab couldn't be painted inside as designed, still less glazed since everything ended up as a sealed unit. I reworked the cab rood to make the panel between the rainstrips removable. All the bits fitted, I should say, though the whitemetal fly crank put up a bit of a fight the end result is one of my better efforts. I suspect that it had been designed with 0 gauge in mind - the Simplex certainly was, but dad built that - that's an all wheel drive with Mainline Warship gears. Why Mainline Warship gears? It was the '90s...

garden1-gif.16105


There's one other, but I only reworked that. Bob Alderman, who lots of people on here knew, built it. My contribution was to tame the play in the compensation a bit and to put some better gears and pick ups in it - time moves on with these things: when Bob built it, Romford 30:1s were what you could get that fitted!

St Teilo is a 15" Hunslet. The Impetus chimney was naff - somewhere between the stovepipes some had (with mechanical stokers, I think), and a proper Hunslet job - and Mike Edge sold me a replacement from his kit. A very simple loco and, having had it apart, a simple, accurate, kit. This is paintjob number three since I had it, Bob liked the hand lettering, I remember.

july2012wk1-012-gif.16103


Someday there may be some colliery sidings for these to play in, but the Fowler could be at home on Podimore, I suppose.
Those are all very lovely Adam... I will bear some of the comments about diesel roofs in mind as I may have the same issue with the Ruston from the look of the etches
 
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Herb Garden

Western Thunderer
So given we are chatting about impetus kits I thought folks might appreciate this
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Ive realised that the Fowler is the same type as that used by British Sugar at Wissington so I'm now on the look out for one of those too.

Back to more pressing matters the usual Sunday tidy up allowed me to do a line up of projects currently on the workbench.... Oh they are multiplying!
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From L to R: Drewery 0-4-0DM, GER M15, GER 204, GER B32, MR 2441, MET A class (as loaned to GER in 1872), Ruston 165DE.

Yep that's a lot but progress is being made.

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Currently being worked on is the chassis of the B32. As stated last year earlier on in this is a bit of an experiment in all axle floating compensation to try improving the running quality compared to a fixed rear axle like some of my other 0-6-0Ts. But to get this to work I have also had to get the gearbox to float too.

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The only mount for the gearbox is a brass rod soldered onto it that slots loosely into the front rocker tube.

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This allows it in extreme to do this...

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And this!

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Fits nicely in the cab as well.

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Although it doesn't look it I've had to completely rebuild the body over the weekend as a crooked bunker had knocked the whole thing out of wack. Drastic I know but once you see something it's had to unsee.

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I also took the opportunity to remove the rather unsymmetrical smokebox front to be forever consigned to the bin of terribly designed parts I will have to make a new one.

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With all this progress it won't be long until one of these locos is powered up for the frist time. Unfortunately the test track is in really poor condition in fact it's fallen apart. Maybe it's time for a rebuild
 

Herb Garden

Western Thunderer
In many ways I like this kind of modeling where every few days I jump back to another project. It may seem inefficient but it's fun and surprising fruitful.

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Back on the M15 today. Due to discovering a clash during testing I've had to dismantle the chassis and reverse the gearbox.

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All sorted so I could actually start fitting brake gear and details to this chassis

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There is even space for a full cab interior once I've sorted the side profiles of the body out.
 
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